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Delay Box Racer Question #1670334
09/12/14 04:49 PM
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Just wondering if anyone else has experience a significant increase in chassis reaction time when removing their tire tubes and going tubeless? My usual delay in my box has only resulted in .090 average lights after going tubeless and this is the same setting that averaged .016 RT before the change. It just seems like a big difference.

Re: Delay Box Racer Question [Re: 408strokerdart] #1670335
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You're hitting the tire pretty hard maybe the sidewalls need the support of the tube. Maybe more tire pressure running tubeless?


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Re: Delay Box Racer Question [Re: 408strokerdart] #1670336
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I have never ran tubes but my TA brake and 904 can cut a .012 on a .400 tree so I'd say no.


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Re: Delay Box Racer Question [Re: 408strokerdart] #1670337
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Just wondering if anyone else has experience a significant increase in chassis reaction time when removing their tire tubes and going tubeless? My usual delay in my box has only resulted in .090 average lights after going tubeless and this is the same setting that averaged .016 RT before the change. It just seems like a big difference.



Can't answer your? but that is alot.I like running tubes cause it puts weight where in needs to be.I was told by old racer that the car would et better with tubes.His theory is it helps push the car on top- end. .090 bulb wow

Re: Delay Box Racer Question [Re: 408strokerdart] #1670338
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top bulb my box with tubes 1.048.. and no tubes at the same track 1.025 i found more success using tubes. my car was even a few hundreds faster with tubes these numbers are with three speeds and a fast brake and staged shallow 26in tire up front 35psi

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Just wondering if anyone else has experience a significant increase in chassis reaction time when removing their tire tubes and going tubeless? My usual delay in my box has only resulted in .090 average lights after going tubeless and this is the same setting that averaged .016 RT before the change. It just seems like a big difference.


sound like something else going on maybe seem like a big change i had a problem like this one time i accidently had some delay in the cross talk. i figured it out after i was on the trailer

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Just wondering if anyone else has experience a significant increase in chassis reaction time when removing their tire tubes and going tubeless? My usual delay in my box has only resulted in .090 average lights after going tubeless and this is the same setting that averaged .016 RT before the change. It just seems like a big difference.


sound like something else going on maybe seem like a big change




Just going over the logged runs, converter is flashing 700 RPM more than it was.

Re: Delay Box Racer Question [Re: 408strokerdart] #1670341
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RT is 90 tubeless and 16 with tubes? Wow.. that really is a lot more than most people would expect and probably in the wrong direction from expectations as well? I'll guess at the sidewalls wadding up before getting the tire to hit. Maybe more tire pressure..~1/2 lbs more and see what happens? Good Luck.

Re: Delay Box Racer Question [Re: Dduster] #1670342
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I run tubes and a stiff sidewall tire for S/R S/G...I have carried .050 in the box on a .400 tree and have had as much as 1.165 in the box on a full tree when I leave off the wood. It does have a 23" tire in front also.


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Re: Delay Box Racer Question [Re: 408strokerdart] #1670343
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Just wondering if anyone else has experience a significant increase in chassis reaction time when removing their tire tubes and going tubeless? My usual delay in my box has only resulted in .090 average lights after going tubeless and this is the same setting that averaged .016 RT before the change. It just seems like a big difference.


sound like something else going on maybe seem like a big change




Just going over the logged runs, converter is flashing 700 RPM more than it was.




there is your delay along with no tubes converter taking longer to move the car. I found that out with my car too after converter stalled at 6300 now its at 6900 my reaction times slowed down. but I don't run a delay box.But do run box and no box sometimes.


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