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Restore or Repaint? #1669969
09/11/14 01:13 AM
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My'68 Bee has more than its fair share of dents, dings, & primer spots BUT she still wears the original WW1 paint and it still has some shine to it. I thought about repairing the body damage & color matching the original paint ( 45 year-old white is a little yellow). I could buff the original paint back to a pretty decent shine. It would take a ton of work & the body would still have some waves, but it would still retain about 80% of the original paint. Or should I just have the whole body brought back to perfect & have a high quality "first" repaint, cut, & buff. What would be the best option?


'68 Bee 383/TF/Factory Air...high school sweetheart
'67 GTX Clone project,500 six pack,Hemi4-speed,Dana
05 Dodge Viper, 505 V-10, 6-speed Tremec
Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669970
09/11/14 01:34 AM
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I would do a total repaint. Avoids the probable mismatch.

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: Pacnorthcuda] #1669971
09/11/14 01:48 AM
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Well you haven't mentioned what kind of shape the rest of the car is in.
I say this because if you decide to repaint, you're potentially opening a Pandora's box. First it's paint, then the engine doesn't look so hot, so it's re gasket and repaint. Then new brake and fuel lines etc. Then that could lead to an interior redo. And on and on.

If the engine and interior are good to go, I say go ahead and repaint it.


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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: ricomondo] #1669972
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Car is overall in great shape, only a couple minor rust spots that I cut out & welded in patches. Interior is excellent, motor, trans, rear axle, rear suspension all rebuilt/restored. Car originally sold in Utah, then moved to desert in early 70's, so we are talking California "minor rust" as opposed to Michigan "minor rust".


'68 Bee 383/TF/Factory Air...high school sweetheart
'67 GTX Clone project,500 six pack,Hemi4-speed,Dana
05 Dodge Viper, 505 V-10, 6-speed Tremec
Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669973
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I'd retain as much originality as possible. It's far more interesting than yet another car with a perfect paint job. I wish I could have done that with my Super Bee. I never use it much for fear of that first chip in the paint.


*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC



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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669974
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There's nothing 'interesting' about 45 years of battle scars...

Scars are scars...

Utah body???(Two of the nicest Mopar 'bodys' I've ever seen came from Utah...

Zero body issues...Both Hemi SuperBees)...


Why have a fresh drive train, with a really nice interior, and look scuddzy???

You're already ahead of the game with the starting point...

Do it up...

And drive it...


There are cars out there that look good, and rack-up miles...

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: RSNOMO] #1669975
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There's nothing 'interesting' about 45 years of battle scars...





45 years of battle scars with 80 percent original paint sounds pretty cool + interesting to me. I'd love to see pics of this Bee. Quite a few Mopar guys on this site have sung the praises of an original car, despite the imperfections. Our pal from Ohio with the black '69 Bee is one example.


*1969 383 4sp. Super Bee
*1966 Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint GT
*1965 Porsche 356C
*2004 VW Passat Wagon
*2004 Mini Cooper S
*1967 Jaguar E-Type FHC



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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: new bee] #1669976
09/11/14 11:57 PM
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I have several cars and some with nice paint. I enjoy driving my "less then perfect" cars more. Looks like rain, drive it, goin to the store, drive it, goin to get parts, its got a trunk! Patina is cool!

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: GI Moparman] #1669977
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I think a car with 80% original paint is much more interesting than just another repainted queen, as long as it doesn't look like it's neglected of course. You can always change your mind later with this option, with the other option it's over for good.

Sheldon

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: new bee] #1669978
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Quote:

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There's nothing 'interesting' about 45 years of battle scars...





45 years of battle scars with 80 percent original paint sounds pretty cool + interesting to me. I'd love to see pics of this Bee. Quite a few Mopar guys on this site have sung the praises of an original car, despite the imperfections. Our pal from Ohio with the black '69 Bee is one example.




Actually my question was should I repair/blend the battle scars and restore the original paint leaving 80% original and 20% new paint. Most of the scars and would be gone, but I think the car would look pretty decent when it was done.

I'll post pix & comments in the build section later


'68 Bee 383/TF/Factory Air...high school sweetheart
'67 GTX Clone project,500 six pack,Hemi4-speed,Dana
05 Dodge Viper, 505 V-10, 6-speed Tremec
Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669979
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I would definitely lave it alone and shine it up. Survivor type cars are far more interesting.
Have you looked at having a paint less dent repair guy take out the dings? A friend had his survivor Charger done and the results were incredible.

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: RUNCHARGER] #1669980
09/12/14 08:11 AM
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I think a car with 80% original paint is much more interesting than just another repainted queen, as long as it doesn't look like it's neglected of course. You can always change your mind later with this option, with the other option it's over for good.

Sheldon




That's exactly how I feel.

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: new bee] #1669981
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Quote:

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There's nothing 'interesting' about 45 years of battle scars...





45 years of battle scars with 80 percent original paint sounds pretty cool + interesting to me. I'd love to see pics of this Bee. Quite a few Mopar guys on this site have sung the praises of an original car, despite the imperfections. Our pal from Ohio with the black '69 Bee is one example.




X2!

However, make sure it's the right guy doing the bodywork and blending that paint! We are lucky here in WI to have the "Master"


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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: 1KoolBee] #1669982
09/12/14 11:36 AM
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Sorry...I don't understand the pride in wearing "original" paint, unless it's 100% pristine, and the color one desires....otherwise a quality repaint is in order IMHO

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1669983
09/12/14 03:51 PM
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It's one thing to look at a car you don't own with original paint and that's beat up. However when it's your own car and you have to look at it daily, it gets old. At least that's how I feel about it.

Like mentioned, you need to decide where to draw the line before it ends up a full resto. I'd rather have nice shiny paint and a just ok underhood and interior or a dirty undercoated under side... and so on.


68 Road Runner, 69 Belvedere, 71 Challenger Vert
340 barracuda, 01 Ram CTD, 95 Ram, 04 Ram, 85 Daytona turbo Z
66 GTO, 06 Magnum RT AWD. 07 Ram CTD, 07 Ram
Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: Silver70] #1669984
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I have a demon 340 that's a 20 footer, was painted in the late 70's slight dents dings etc.. And a nicely painter 68 roadrunner. I definitely enjoy driving the demon more don't worry about rock chips, will take it to a store, work, errands etc . The RR is opposite. At cruises and shows I get more interest in the demons paint than the nice RR paint questions about where the cars from, how long have you had it, is it a survivor? It up to you in the end.

Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: ademon] #1669985
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a battle scar is a battle scar, wear it with pride!
Wash me, dry me, then take me out so others can see the time you put in and the life I have lived.


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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: new bee] #1669986
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Quote:

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There's nothing 'interesting' about 45 years of battle scars...





45 years of battle scars with 80 percent original paint sounds pretty cool + interesting to me. I'd love to see pics of this Bee. Quite a few Mopar guys on this site have sung the praises of an original car, despite the imperfections. Our pal from Ohio with the black '69 Bee is one example.




Mostly original paint on my R/T but the battle scars were too much to ignore

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Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1669987
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OK for some perspective.......by no means perfect, but not bad for her age.

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'68 Bee 383/TF/Factory Air...high school sweetheart
'67 GTX Clone project,500 six pack,Hemi4-speed,Dana
05 Dodge Viper, 505 V-10, 6-speed Tremec
Re: Restore or Repaint? [Re: AZ_A12_BEE] #1669988
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It's only original once. Leave it bee.


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