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Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4? #1665506
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Checking for a friend. Is Super Pro at The MM event at Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4?
Thanks Doug

Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4? [Re: dvw] #1665507
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I am real sure that is 1/4 mile

Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4? [Re: dvw] #1665508
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All classes except for KOS and quick 16 will be 1/4 mile.

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Ok Thanks. Car is geared for the 1/8 as that is what everyone runs up here.
Doug

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Ok Thanks. Car is geared for the 1/8 as that is what everyone runs up here.
Doug




Who, frankly is " everybody"..... US 131 is1/4 mile track,and I thought Milan does also, unless it's changed very recently. Those easily the two biggest tracks in Michigan.

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Seems like most of the northern states are 1/4 mile and the southern boys race 1/8 mile. Probably scared of the high speeds.


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Ok Thanks. Car is geared for the 1/8 as that is what everyone runs up here.
Doug




Who, frankly is " everybody"..... US 131 is1/4 mile track,and I thought Milan does also, unless it's changed very recently. Those easily the two biggest tracks in Michigan.



Yes both are 1/4 mile tracks. However Milan, Mid Michigan, and Ubly all run Super Pro 1/8 mile. Looks to me that 131 still runs it on the 1/4 mile. Milan and Mid Michigan still run Pro on the 1/4 as well.
Doug

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I think the Kilkare race was mostly 1/8 mile wasn't it? Probably a prominent reason the car count was ultra low.
Based on my experiences, probably 80% of the guys who will be at Norwalk are there to have fun and run they're cars out the back door, have fun, go rounds if they can, but not lose sleep if they don't.
Definately some hardcore " payout number cruncher " guys there too,but most guys want to go all the way down the track and get some good air, good hook, timeslips
I know myself, if it was 1/8 mile, no way I would take the time off work and spend the money to go. The fact Norwalk ISN'T that way is why so many guys will be there.


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Re: Super Pro at Monster Mopar Norwalk 1/8 or 1/4? [Re: B3422W5] #1665514
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What happens in that last 660 ft that's so great???

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What happens in that last 660 ft that's so great???





Did you build the car to be able to handle stretching it's legs?
Speed!!!!!
Strategy......


From the beginning it's been 1/4 mile to race so why back off? 1/8 mile and I'm really not interested. May as well sit in the parking lot and talk about how fast you think it is.

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What happens in that last 660 ft that's so great???




You continue to gain speed and you get a 1/4 mile timeslip at the ET shack.
Each to his own. Guess it depends on where your from. I find much less fun in going half track than full track... I like the higher speed, and even like braking from that higher speed.

I couldn't imagine a hemi super stocker running 1/8 mile. Thank god everything cool still runs on the quarter mile like the sport was originally intended. The only thing thus far that has been " officially" ruined is funny car and top fuel

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How many races are won it that last 660 in high gear just driving???I think 90 % of races are won at the starting line,aren't they?????1/8th mile has a starting line.

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Don't get me wrong,I love 1/4 mile too.I hate that NHRA has gone 1000ft in the fuel classes.But cmon,everything happens in the first part of the track,reaction time,tire spin,shifting,all the variables happen in the first 660 ft,am I wrong??

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How many races are won it that last 660 in high gear just driving???I think 90 % of races are won at the starting line,aren't they?????1/8th mile has a starting line.





Damn if thats the case lets just sit in chairs and do Christams Tree starts!!!!! Best light is a winner

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Reaction Time is not the whole story,but it varies more for me than my car varies ET wise.Last night my car ran within .020 seconds on all 6 passes ,but my reaction times varied by .100 best to worst.I know that proves I am a crappy driver,but my car is pretty tight.And if I ran quarter I still would have got hammered.

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How many races are won it that last 660 in high gear just driving???I think 90 % of races are won at the starting line,aren't they?????1/8th mile has a starting line.




Far from 90% are. But your making the assumption( wrongly) that everybody cares about sawing down the tree.
Tons of people go to the track to chase ET, or just see what the car they have runs. Not everyone is a dedicated bracket racer.
Heck, probably the two most important " new" developments in drag racing..... Grudge racing nights, and heads up radial stuff, the tree is nowhere near as important as getting down the track and getting your power down. Having 2 or 3 hundreds on the tree don't mean squat.

One of the reasons I am beginning to hate top fuel and funny car on the 1000 foot is it becomes more about money that being a true tuner and keeping the candles lit the whole 1320.


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OK.Sorry man,Around here all we do is bracket race,The heads up stuff only gets maybe 5% as many cars as bracket,In fact ,my local track has no heads up anything,and that grudge night stuff is all Honda/import guys .But I feel you ,I would much prefer to run quarter mile,but I still think most of the stuff happens in the first 660 ft.

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OK.Sorry man,Around here all we do is bracket race,The heads up stuff only gets maybe 5% as many cars as bracket,In fact ,my local track has no heads up anything,and that grudge night stuff is all Honda/import guys .But I feel you ,I would much prefer to run quarter mile,but I still think most of the stuff happens in the first 660 ft.




I have bracket raced off and on for the last 40 years. I like it, don't get me wrong.... Lol

I went up to my first " grudge night" at my local track a few weeks ago( US131) there were 50 times more people there than any bracket race I have ever been to in my life( a few thousand people were there, probably 500 of whom were right on the starting line)
Almost no ricers. Mostly all 7 sec and slower nitrous/ turbo muscle cars trying to get tons of power down the track.

You need to get out more... Nights like the above pay the bills, bracket nights most generally don't. Sad but true.
People want to see high speeds , possible wrecks, and nitrous purges.


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Get out more????Where to Michigan???that's about 800 miles away.Like I said here in KY,that midnight madness stuff is a bunch of Honda civics and Neons and Maybe a 240sx with a turbo,most of em running 10 second 1/8th miles.I understand your point,but all the tracks within 150 miles of me run 1/8th mile,so I am supposed to not race,cause its only 1/8th mile?I guess I should move to Oklahoma City and race on the street with all those losers?I was making a point that most of the action on the dragstrip happens in the first 660 ft.,you cant admit that?????

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Get out more????Where to Michigan???that's about 800 miles away.Like I said here in KY,that midnight madness stuff is a bunch of Honda civics and Neons and Maybe a 240sx with a turbo,most of em running 10 second 1/8th miles.I understand your point,but all the tracks within 150 miles of me run 1/8th mile,so I am supposed to not race,cause its only 1/8th mile?I guess I should move to Oklahoma City and race on the street with all those losers?I was making a point that most of the action on the dragstrip happens in the first 660 ft.,you cant admit that?????





No, I hear ya, I am spoiled. Most of the racing around here is 1/4 mile.
I am thankfull it's that way, if it wasn't I would have WAY less interest in spending my time and money on a car and racing it.
1/4 or 1/8 the tree and stripe are both important, as both have them.
I have always raced 3 speed automatics, so to me I much more enjoy hitting the tree, hitting my shift points, then racing the finish line. To me the 1/4 affords the opportunity to do all of those things.
But if your a racer, you race at what you have. If my local track hadn't been 1/4 mile 40+ years ago when I first went down the track, I would probably be skeet shooting, or bowling or something

Btw... I was born in Elizabethtown, Ky. It's a little better than 6 hours from me, and I am 1/2 hour from my local track, it isn't close to 800 miles to anywhere in Kentucky from here.... LOL

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69 Dart GTS A4 Silver All steel, flat factory hood, 3360race weight
418 BPE factory replacement headed stroker, 565 lift solid cam
Best so far, 10.40 @127 1/4
1.41 best 60 foot
6.60 at 103.90 1/8

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