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Re: Looking For a Good book On Gen 3 [Re: 1badx] #1665179
08/30/14 11:56 AM
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The 5.7 (non-VVT) blocks are a good choice. Just be sure to sonic test the bores. It took me 3 blocks to find one I felt was acceptable. There was obviously quite a bit core shift when these were made.

As far as boost limits on stock head bolts and gaskets - we've taken a completely stock 6.1 engine to 28psi with no sign of head lifting. This doesn't mean I'd build a purpose built engine with this configuration - just relaying the strength of the stock setup. Go with head studs and Cometics.

Modern Mopar Forum is a good place for full tilt Gen III Hemi info if you don't mind the drama.

Here's a link to a thread on pushing a stock 6.1 to the limits:
http://modernmoparforum.com/topic/12184-...e-photos-added/





What I'm looking to build wont use much boost.. maybe
15-20 psi max.. it'll be a stand alone injected with
either a single or twins with intercoolers.. just
a street/strip ride that will only run 10.0 in a
2900# Rampage... I'll most likely get the engine in
and running then mock up for the turbo/s and see what
will fit... nothing fancy for power

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Re: Looking For a Good book On Gen 3 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665180
08/30/14 01:45 PM
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The 5.7 (non-VVT) blocks are a good choice. Just be sure to sonic test the bores. It took me 3 blocks to find one I felt was acceptable. There was obviously quite a bit core shift when these were made.

As far as boost limits on stock head bolts and gaskets - we've taken a completely stock 6.1 engine to 28psi with no sign of head lifting. This doesn't mean I'd build a purpose built engine with this configuration - just relaying the strength of the stock setup. Go with head studs and Cometics.

Modern Mopar Forum is a good place for full tilt Gen III Hemi info if you don't mind the drama.

Here's a link to a thread on pushing a stock 6.1 to the limits:
http://modernmoparforum.com/topic/12184-...e-photos-added/





What I'm looking to build wont use much boost.. maybe
15-20 psi max.. it'll be a stand alone injected with
either a single or twins with intercoolers.. just
a street/strip ride that will only run 10.0 in a
2900# Rampage... I'll most likely get the engine in
and running then mock up for the turbo/s and see what
will fit... nothing fancy for power





You wont need boost to run 10.0 at that weight with a Gen III Hemi. We have a customer with a 3700 pound 4 door, 7L running 10.30 NA. There's several others out there doing the same or close and many daily drivers weighing 4200#'s running high 10's NA.

Re: Looking For a Good book On Gen 3 [Re: 1badx] #1665181
08/30/14 02:46 PM
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The 5.7 (non-VVT) blocks are a good choice. Just be sure to sonic test the bores. It took me 3 blocks to find one I felt was acceptable. There was obviously quite a bit core shift when these were made.

As far as boost limits on stock head bolts and gaskets - we've taken a completely stock 6.1 engine to 28psi with no sign of head lifting. This doesn't mean I'd build a purpose built engine with this configuration - just relaying the strength of the stock setup. Go with head studs and Cometics.

Modern Mopar Forum is a good place for full tilt Gen III Hemi info if you don't mind the drama.

Here's a link to a thread on pushing a stock 6.1 to the limits:
http://modernmoparforum.com/topic/12184-...e-photos-added/





What I'm looking to build wont use much boost.. maybe
15-20 psi max.. it'll be a stand alone injected with
either a single or twins with intercoolers.. just
a street/strip ride that will only run 10.0 in a
2900# Rampage... I'll most likely get the engine in
and running then mock up for the turbo/s and see what
will fit... nothing fancy for power





You wont need boost to run 10.0 at that weight with a Gen III Hemi. We have a customer with a 3700 pound 4 door, 7L running 10.30 NA. There's several others out there doing the same or close and many daily drivers weighing 4200#'s running high 10's NA.




Yeah I know but when I can get to a few tracks I
want to turn it up to see hat it can run.. mainly
the turbo will be for looks and some fun... plus I
want to run on 87 octane for the street and some 93
at the track... it wont run much boost.. MOST of the time

Re: Looking For a Good book On Gen 3 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665182
09/01/14 04:36 PM
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Here is the pic of the notch in the oil drain crossover under #8 to clear the bolt head of the #7 rod cap when using a 4.05-4.08" stroke.


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Re: Looking For a Good book On Gen 3 [Re: 72Swinger] #1665183
09/01/14 04:40 PM
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Thats good... doesnt look like much at all.. I assume
thats a good distance from water

Re: Looking For a Good book On Gen 3 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1665184
09/01/14 04:55 PM
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Yes it is. Its just an oil tunnel that merges the rear oil drainback at the rear of #8 to the drainback between #6 and #8. Even if you went through, it would just drainback at the breach instead of through the 6-8 drainback.


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Re: Looking For a Good book On Gen 3 [Re: 72Swinger] #1665185
09/01/14 04:58 PM
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Yes it is. Its just an oil tunnel that merges the rear oil drainback at the rear of #8 to the drainback between #6 and #8. Even if you went through, it would just drainback at the breach instead of through the 6-8 drainback.




thanks

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