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paint line for most correct Q5? #1663975
08/26/14 03:40 PM
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Looking to see who makes the most correct 69 Q5? Trying to find out too if they were painted with red primer under the color like I believe the F6 was. Customer has an A12 f6 bee that he had another shop do a few years ago. They shot it with a gray sealer and he wasn't happy so he had them redo it with the red sealer then color n clear it. He and I want to make sure we get this one correct. It's a 69 hemi q5 bee.

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Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1663976
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There is a Q5 A12 road runner done in Canada goes by Q5 Wally he did it in single stage, also the 69 Dart recently featured in Mopar Muscle was also done in Canada
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Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: Q5_Ed] #1663977
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Anyone have any ideas? Been looking a lot on line and seeing varying shades.


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Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1663978
08/29/14 11:38 PM
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Anyone have any ideas? Been looking a lot on line and seeing varying shades.








I've said it before, and I'll say it again, there's no magical paint formula, no special paint pipeline...ANY paint can be made to match the desired shade/color needed, you can achieve the perfect "formula" only to have the guy mixing the paint fubar the actual final mix prior to the day of painting, or the wrong base shade, or coverage issues/spray technique, etc, etc, etc

Pick the style of paint finish you want, single stage enamel as OEM, single stage urethane, BC/CC, etc, etc, pick the brand (quality line), work with the guy mixing it to achieve the desired hue/shade, if your not painting it, work with the painter in achieving the results you desire thru spray outs,...and when it's all said and done and your ready to repeat the process, and just when you think you've "nailed it", there's no guarantees


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Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: DAYCLONA] #1663979
08/30/14 01:08 AM
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I am the one spraying it. Yes I know all the variables with painting(20 year painter) The thing I am trying to do is find the best starting point and going from there. I called PPG color library and got a rapid match reading off of what they say is the original spray out. Sprayed it out twice. Once over gray sealer and once over dp74 red sealer to give customer ideas on what it will look like. He has them both and still wants to make sure its the right shade and look. I WILL refuse to shoot this color in single stage. No way on this earth I would do that. Yes I know it wont be "factory" correct doing it base/clear. Ideally the perfect solution would be if I had a sample of an original factory part that I could have my jobber take the PPG formula and tint it to match. Currently PPG only has the actual color available in Shopline basecoat. I really don't want to use that. So maybe a better option would be does anyone have a small piece of an original Q5 factory sprayed paint that I could use for a short time?


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Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1663980
08/30/14 01:10 AM
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Also no this car does not have an original spot that I can use as a sample. Its been for better terms worked over pretty good and from what we have found I wouldn't trust any of the color on here to be even in the same field as the factory color.


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Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: hotairballoonpilot] #1663981
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I think all cars were sprayed with the red oxide primer prior to paint. My JA5 dark silver metallic was originally. My Darts Q1 also had red primer on it.

Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: burdar] #1663982
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And there is NO WAY I would let my painter spray Q5 in bsse/clear again! You cannot even come close to the original color that way, seen it too many times. I have an original Q5 Swinger parts car, I don't know if there are any unboltable parts left to send you though.

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Re: paint line for most correct Q5? [Re: Rhinodart] #1663983
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The thing that I don't like is metallic control in a single stage. Just do not like it. Plus after I do a paint job I like to really cut and buff them smooth. Yeah I know that's not correct but honestly if I can get an original part I can have my jobber do the tinting on it to make it as close to original as possible. I was wrong with the customers F6 bee. It wasn't that it was painted with wrong undercoat color. There just was mottled and that was the reason they redid it. That IMO will happen if I do it in single stage no doubt in my mind.


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