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1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? #1663325
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I am looking at engine combinations for local heads up power adder class racing.

I am looking at big block, small block and Gen III Hemi stuff.

I have been out of the loop for a bit due to working on getting my real estate license and getting that business going.

Is it true it is getting harder to find racing blocks for the small blocks? And what about the availability for big blocks?

Whatever I build it will need to make 1100+HP.

I am leaning towards the Gen 3 Hemi, but I am open for recommendations.


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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663326
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All three could meet your goals. What are the rule restrictions? You should optimize the combo based on that.

Weight per motor?
Tire size?
Etc...

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: dizuster] #1663327
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All 3 will work, Gen III's have come way down in cost. You'll need boost and a driveline to handle the power. It comes down to how much money you have to spend. You won't need to spin an old school BB as much as the others. That could make it live longer.


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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663328
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Only R3 blocks are the ones people already own.... none in warehouse, no production date.

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663329
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First thing.. is it 1/8 mile or 1/4... turboed engines
tend to work better on the 1/4.. spray tends to work
better on the 1/8

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1663330
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I am looking at the radial classes where the limitation has been pretty much BB are limited to nitrous unless I go Outlaw Drag Radial and the wallet is no where near that deep.

The small blocks can be turbo, supercharged or multistage nitrous.

Right now some of the people I have been talking to are saying it would be cheaper and easier to find parts to drop a Chevy motor in it.

I have been waiting to see the Victor small block Mopar heads but still waiting.


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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663331
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I am looking at the radial classes where the limitation has been pretty much BB are limited to nitrous unless I go Outlaw Drag Radial and the wallet is no where near that deep.

The small blocks can be turbo, supercharged or multistage nitrous.

Right now some of the people I have been talking to are saying it would be cheaper and easier to find parts to drop a Chevy motor in it.

I have been waiting to see the Victor small block Mopar heads but still waiting.




Sounds like the Gen 3 would be a good one... your
open to anything then ... or see if you can find a
R3 block and a set of W-8s

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: J_BODY] #1663332
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Only R3 blocks are the ones people already own.... none in warehouse, no production date.




That is what I was afraid of when it comes to the LA small block.


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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663333
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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: a493demon] #1663334
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i am going with a turbo w8

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: cold85] #1663335
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i am going with a turbo w8



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i am going with a turbo w8



HOWS THAT COMING ALONG



brett still has heads and block but should get them picked up this weekend> Ordered crank and waiting on it.

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: cold85] #1663337
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i am going with a turbo w8



HOWS THAT COMING ALONG



brett still has heads and block but should get them picked up this weekend> Ordered crank and waiting on it.




Who's crank are you using and what will the stroke be? If you don't mind telling. Jim

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: rt66jim] #1663338
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1100HP in a good BB with a B1MC head is certainly attainable with no power adders. So add a nitrous friendly cam, ring pack, and piston and even a small shot will more than eclipse that. FWIW my junk pile went 8.0's with a pretty basic no maintenance 525" B1MC at 2975lbs that was set up to run on the stop. You can do the HP math for yourself.


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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: all spooled up] #1663339
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I actually had a X Block short block that disappeared when a local machine shop closed up and surprise surprise no one told me until some time had passed

So now I am back to square one. I am about ready just to say screw it all and just let the car sit in the shop on jack stands and keep dust off the floor.

I got tired of the racing BS and games that I had been dealing with. I got so frustrated with the crooks, shady ones and back stabbers that I actually walked away from it all. It just seemed like I never could catch a break.

I guess I am too hardheaded to stay away so I am going to try to make a go of it again.


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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663340
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Just my opinion, but I'd do a 500+ inch big block w/ some B1 heads and a Monte Smith nitrous system. It'd be pretty easy to make 900 or so on the motor, then hit it w/ a big kit.


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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: rt66jim] #1663341
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i am going with a turbo w8



HOWS THAT COMING ALONG



brett still has heads and block but should get them picked up this weekend> Ordered crank and waiting on it.




Who's crank are you using and what will the stroke be? If you don't mind telling. Jim



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Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663342
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I actually had a X Block short block that disappeared when a local machine shop closed up and surprise surprise no one told me until some time had passed

So now I am back to square one. I am about ready just to say screw it all and just let the car sit in the shop on jack stands and keep dust off the floor.

I got tired of the racing BS and games that I had been dealing with. I got so frustrated with the crooks, shady ones and back stabbers that I actually walked away from it all. It just seemed like I never could catch a break.

I guess I am too hardheaded to stay away so I am going to try to make a go of it again.




I am on my second machine shop and still waiting...I feel your pain. My engine should have been running a year ago. Paying people to do stuff is overrated most of the time I guess.

Re: 1100+ HP engine combinations what would you build? [Re: SLEDGEHAMMER] #1663343
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I am looking at the radial classes where the limitation has been pretty much BB are limited to nitrous unless I go Outlaw Drag Radial and the wallet is no where near that deep.

The small blocks can be turbo, supercharged or multistage nitrous.




On radials tires I would choose the SB route(for the 1/8 mile tracks ) and use a crank driven Pro Charger with a power management EFI, maybe the GEN 3 Hemi if the class rules will allow that The BB with NOS will probally be a traction plagued combination on any track

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First thing.. is it 1/8 mile or 1/4... turboed engines
tend to work better on the 1/4.. spray tends to work
better on the 1/8






Dude its not 1994 any power adder will do just fine. 100ft or 1/4 mile doesnt matter.


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