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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: roadrunninMark]
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09/15/14 02:08 AM
09/15/14 02:08 AM
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Muu, are you using the hydro boost with the 15/16 m/c? What did you get the hydro boost out of?
Right now, no hydroboost. I've got a 1 1/32" bore MC on there now. If the pedal is too stiff, I'll probably go down to a 15/16" MC and go from there.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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09/18/14 11:36 PM
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goldduster318
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you can still basically put the entire front end together minus the spindles and tensioning the torsion bars. Once the spindles arrive, it will be cake. All that would be left is installing the brake kit and welding on the sway bar tabs in the front. You could have the rear complete as well before then.
Just keep plugging away at it.
'70 Duster 470hp 340/T56 Magnum/8 3/4 3.23 Sure-Grip
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: goldduster318]
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09/19/14 01:34 AM
09/19/14 01:34 AM
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you can still basically put the entire front end together minus the spindles and tensioning the torsion bars. Once the spindles arrive, it will be cake. All that would be left is installing the brake kit and welding on the sway bar tabs in the front. You could have the rear complete as well before then.
Just keep plugging away at it.
I just ordered the spindle should be here in 3 business days, so I'm assuming around Wed next week.
We already hand tightened the pitman and idler arm to the steering linkages and K frame. Tomorrow we're going to install the LCA and strut rods (maybe even the torsion bars). One problem we had with the LCA pins is that the pins kept on spinning in the bushing (already greased) when we tried tightening it. We figured that the pin wasn't completely seated in the bushing and are going to try to seat them tomorrow. The rear of the car is already completely complete.
We'd like to do the front brakes off the car and on the spindles as it's easier to work with. Besides that, I need wheels and tires (been stressing me out lately for whatever reason), I need a new driveshaft cut/made, and subframe connectors welded in (our new brake lines are going to mount to them). Sway bars can hold off for a little while as they shouldn't effect the alignment after installation.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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09/19/14 08:05 PM
09/19/14 08:05 PM
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The combination of the Knuckles, hubs, bearings, rotors, calipers, and lower ball joint together is one big heavy mess, probably in the 60-80 lb range. Personally, I'd mount the knuckles up first and assemble from there, especially considering the LBJ has to be assembled first and the taper points up.
For the LCA pins, you'd probably want to use a block of wood and try to bash them in a little bit to get it to stick on the taper until you can tighten.
The whole wheel thing is complicated because of the A-body rear axle...the front track is probably still a significant difference from the rear. After reading your other topics, looks like the Darts have less room in both the front and rear than a Duster. I'm looking to measure with my wheel-rite and probably go with 275-35-18 on 18x9 +35 offset (6.4 backspace) wheels, and maybe a small spacer with my factory 11.75 fronts.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: goldduster318]
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09/19/14 08:33 PM
09/19/14 08:33 PM
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The combination of the Knuckles, hubs, bearings, rotors, calipers, and lower ball joint together is one big heavy mess, probably in the 60-80 lb range. Personally, I'd mount the knuckles up first and assemble from there, especially considering the LBJ has to be assembled first and the taper points up.
Thinking about it, the hub and rotor assembly was already pretty heavy.
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For the LCA pins, you'd probably want to use a block of wood and try to bash them in a little bit to get it to stick on the taper until you can tighten.
We're working on it right now. Hitting the LCA with a mallet trying to get the pins to stick. I may pm Dan real quick.
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The whole wheel thing is complicated because of the A-body rear axle...the front track is probably still a significant difference from the rear. After reading your other topics, looks like the Darts have less room in both the front and rear than a Duster. I'm looking to measure with my wheel-rite and probably go with 275-35-18 on 18x9 +35 offset (6.4 backspace) wheels, and maybe a small spacer with my factory 11.75 fronts.
I'm still on the hunt. The offset thing is definitely a PIA. I'm thinking 18 x 9.5" for now with a 245/40/18.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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09/19/14 11:21 PM
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Ive never had the pin issue, I have FF pins and just hit them with my impact, zip zoop done.
Mopar to the bone!!!
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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09/22/14 09:33 PM
09/22/14 09:33 PM
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Got some more work out today. I removed the driveshaft (making a big ATF mess  ) and my friend and I cut the ends, measured what we need to, and the ends should be shipped to member Old Goat to have a new driveshaft made.  Also, we brought out a punch and a BFH for the pins and started hammering the back side so that we'd can start tightening them down. This method did work out great. Only problem we had was at a point the nut bottomed out on the threads before the pin fully seated in the K-frame so we added the oem washers underneath the Hotchkis washers. We still have full thread engagement on the nut (about 3-4 threads showing). I've been juggling back and forth between Cass and I regarding tracking numbers. He had to drop ship them from the supplier so they may get here later in the week. Hopefully brakes will probably be done by Saturday.  I'll do some quick measurements and I'll order my wheels.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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12/19/14 11:09 PM
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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12/19/14 11:32 PM
12/19/14 11:32 PM
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Looks good! Don't shoot your car We have all been (or still are) there and know the frustration when you finally get everything together though the feeling is awesome! 
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: RylisPro]
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12/20/14 12:13 AM
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I like how Hotchkis positioned the upper ball joint, at droop it isn't pretty but still OK, but at a lower than stock ride height I bet it is in the sweet spot.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: MuuMuu101]
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12/20/14 01:01 AM
12/20/14 01:01 AM
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I wanna see this with rear mounted high performance brake calipers. I've never seen an A-body Hotchkis Upper Control arm with anything but a stock caliper and rotor 11.75" or 10.75"
BTW you cant run rear mounted 11.75" stock pin caliper setup with the Hotchkis Upper Control Arm.
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Re: Hotchkis TVS, Brakes, and Rear End Install
[Re: 340duster340]
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12/20/14 05:44 AM
12/20/14 05:44 AM
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its hard to tell from the pics, but is the bolt head for the lower ball joint facing in or out? it should be facing out. with the nut on the inner ball joint side.
either way, nice progress. its definitely a hurdle point so you'll back back on the road soon.
You saw it right. I thought that's how they were on my old brake package but it's an easy swap. Nothing is torqued down. Anyways, next week I'll call over my friend and we'll finish brakes and maybe suspension. Wheels won't ship till the 30th apparently.
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