Re: Any differences from an "old" Keith Black to a new one?
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Yes there are differences. Not only between old and new but also there are different "stages". Street block, race block etc. Some didn't have starter provisions. In the beginning they were water blocks with wet sleeves, now the street blocks are dry sleeve. Call Ken Black, he will be very helpful and tell you all about your block. What is your serial number?
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Re: Any differences from an "old" Keith Black to a new one?
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1545 is the serial number.I took a bunch of pics I will post them when I get home
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Re: Any differences from an "old" Keith Black to a new one?
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1545 is the serial number.I took a bunch of pics I will post them when I get home
I'm thinking it's the wet sleeve version. The newer ones start with 426-
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Re: Any differences from an "old" Keith Black to a new one?
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Wow, just spoke to them. It's an original race block converted by KB to a water block. It is a Stage 6 Race Block. He told me I need to make sure my Stage 5 Heads steam holes align perfectly with the blocks 10 holes. Awesome. Eyeballing , they look good. My builder will make sure, I'm sure.
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Re: Any differences from an "old" Keith Black to a new one?
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That valley area looks very much like mine. My block is # 1343 and is a Stage 3.
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Re: Any differences from an "old" Keith Black to a new one?
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Mine is an old Connie Calitta Fuel block that was passed down to the T/A ranks from the 90's. The valley cross braces are not as wide on mine. If I remember correctly it is a Stage 8.
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Re: Any differences from an "old" Keith Black to a new one?
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With the cross bars from bank to bank in the lifter galley, and apparent standard cam location, it would seem to be a Stage I block. If you'll be using a roller camshaft, make sure you have lifter pairs that will separate from each other for installation. Chase
Since the cross braces have some machining near the lifter bores, hopefully the roller lifter link bars clear the cross brace for easier installation. Unlike the older stage blocks shown in this post.
I wonder if a Mopar mini starter will clear the ribs in that area? I ordered my new block with "starter clearancing", but I don't know if it is needed with a mini-starter.
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