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Any way to replace the steering column joint? #1652651 07/29/14 10:11 PM 07/29/14 10:11 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 13,878 Willow Grove PA 71sat440 OP I Live Here
71sat440 OP I Live Here Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 13,878 Willow Grove PA	Is there anyway to get rid of that steering column joint on a 71 b body without buying a whole column? Like a needle bearing joint or something that doesn't have that metal piece you have to crimp around the top?

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: 71sat440] #1652652 07/30/14 12:02 AM 07/30/14 12:02 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	www.speedwaymotors.com has offerings and Borgeson in Connecticut is a quality brand live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: 71sat440] #1652653 07/30/14 04:00 PM 07/30/14 04:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 157 hawaii P pauly v.100 member
pauly v.100 member P Joined: Jan 2010 Posts: 157 hawaii	If it's just the crimped piece that you want to change get the new style cap from steer and gear. http://www.steerandgear.com/Chrysler_Catalog.html#TXTOBJ7DB1219F302938E1

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: pauly v.100] #1652654 07/30/14 09:20 PM 07/30/14 09:20 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK Cudajon pro stock
Cudajon pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK	Get rid of the slop. This from firmfeel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3K94cRC1c

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: Cudajon] #1652655 07/30/14 10:32 PM 07/30/14 10:32 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea B5 Bee master
B5 Bee master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea	The problem with these universal joints are they don't allow for chassis flex like the OEM coupler does.

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: B5 Bee] #1652656 07/31/14 12:53 AM 07/31/14 12:53 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Quote: The problem with these universal joints are they don't allow for chassis flex like the OEM coupler does. I was wondering if that could be an issue live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: RapidRobert] #1652657 07/31/14 02:21 AM 07/31/14 02:21 AM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Borgeson has a solution, they list it for Dodge trucks but they may custom make them https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/popup_image.php?type=D&id=1452 They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: B5 Bee] #1652658 07/31/14 09:31 AM 07/31/14 09:31 AM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,154 bethlehem pa M mikemee1331 master
mikemee1331 master M Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,154 bethlehem pa	Quote: The problem with these universal joints are they don't allow for chassis flex like the OEM coupler does. could you explain this? i'm trying to visualize why not but I can't. is there a lack of forward/backward travel?

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: Supercuda] #1652659 07/31/14 10:38 AM 07/31/14 10:38 AM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL Commando1 master
Commando1 master Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 9,336 South-Central (Sebring), FL	Quote: Borgeson has a solution, they list it for Dodge trucks but they may custom make them https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/popup_image.php?type=D&id=1452 Good link. Thank you!

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: pauly v.100] #1652660 07/31/14 02:41 PM 07/31/14 02:41 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun nomore65BelvJim I Live Here
nomore65BelvJim I Live Here Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 16,844 Phoenix - surface of the sun	Quote: If it's just the crimped piece that you want to change get the new style cap from steer and gear. http://www.steerandgear.com/Chrysler_Catalog.html#TXTOBJ7DB1219F302938E1 Nice updated part...thanks for the link Paul

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: B5 Bee] #1652661 07/31/14 02:45 PM 07/31/14 02:45 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Quote: The problem with these universal joints are they don't allow for chassis flex like the OEM coupler does. you stolen my words With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: mikemee1331] #1652662 07/31/14 02:49 PM 07/31/14 02:49 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Quote: Quote: The problem with these universal joints are they don't allow for chassis flex like the OEM coupler does. could you explain this? i'm trying to visualize why not but I can't. is there a lack of forward/backward travel? yes there is... the unibody frame design gets lots of flex between frame rail and cab ( have you tried to open the door when the car jacked up? ), and shaft is a piece in the middle of both body sections. only way to half accept this universal fixed steering coupler is using frame rail connectors ( and still will need to be checked) With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: Supercuda] #1652663 07/31/14 03:05 PM 07/31/14 03:05 PM
Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España NachoRT74 master
NachoRT74 master Joined: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,095 Valencia, España	Quote: Borgeson has a solution, they list it for Dodge trucks but they may custom make them https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/popup_image.php?type=D&id=1452 would be the same than break the safety shaft plastic pins into the column shaft Last edited by NachoRT74; 07/31/14 03:06 PM. With a Charger born in Chrysler assembly plant in Valencia, Venezuela

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: NachoRT74] #1652664 07/31/14 03:22 PM 07/31/14 03:22 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Quote: Quote: Borgeson has a solution, they list it for Dodge trucks but they may custom make them https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/popup_image.php?type=D&id=1452 would be the same than break the safety shaft plastic pins into the column shaft Not sure what you are saying here. The Borgeson unit allows for the joint to slide in and out some. They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: NachoRT74] #1652665 07/31/14 04:17 PM 07/31/14 04:17 PM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,154 bethlehem pa M mikemee1331 master
mikemee1331 master M Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 4,154 bethlehem pa	Quote: Quote: Quote: The problem with these universal joints are they don't allow for chassis flex like the OEM coupler does. could you explain this? i'm trying to visualize why not but I can't. is there a lack of forward/backward travel? yes there is... the unibody frame design gets lots of flex between frame rail and cab ( have you tried to open the door when the car jacked up? ), and shaft is a piece in the middle of both body sections. only way to half accept this universal fixed steering coupler is using frame rail connectors ( and still will need to be checked) Thanks Nacho! hope all is well!

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: Supercuda] #1652666 07/31/14 05:19 PM 07/31/14 05:19 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea B5 Bee master
B5 Bee master Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,020 Pangaea	Quote: Quote: Quote: Borgeson has a solution, they list it for Dodge trucks but they may custom make them https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/popup_image.php?type=D&id=1452 would be the same than break the safety shaft plastic pins into the column shaft Not sure what you are saying here. The Borgeson unit allows for the joint to slide in and out some. Nothing wrong with the Borgeson unit you linked to. The one Cudajon posted a pic of will lead to problems.

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: 71sat440] #1652667 07/31/14 05:28 PM 07/31/14 05:28 PM
Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 298 mt. pleasant, PA D Diplomat440 enthusiast
Diplomat440 enthusiast D Joined: Jul 2012 Posts: 298 mt. pleasant, PA	I got one of those aftermarket shafts off of a 1990 w250 at a junkyard. I used it to build the shaft on my newport when I put a manual steering box in. It has long splines to let it slide into the ujoint. Lots of steering joints at junkyards that are the same spline, way cheaper too. [image][/image]

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: Diplomat440] #1652668 07/31/14 06:15 PM 07/31/14 06:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK Cudajon pro stock
Cudajon pro stock Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,436 Oklahoma City OK	I'm reading this and am going WHAT? every new car I've looked at uses universal joints. I think too many people are smoking wacky tobaky. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J3K94cRC1c

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: NachoRT74] #1652669 07/31/14 09:27 PM 07/31/14 09:27 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,724 Florida BDW master
BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,724 Florida	Quote: Quote: Borgeson has a solution, they list it for Dodge trucks but they may custom make them https://www.borgeson.com/xcart/popup_image.php?type=D&id=1452 would be the same than break the safety shaft plastic pins into the column shaft I agree with above, the firm feel coupler and removing the safety plugs will allow the shaft to slide if needed. Why spend extra for the whole deal?

Re: Any way to replace the steering column joint? [Re: Diplomat440] #1652670 07/31/14 10:27 PM 07/31/14 10:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 655 Alberta R rustbuckett68 mopar
rustbuckett68 mopar R Joined: Jun 2006 Posts: 655 Alberta	Nice welds. Is there enough expansion to ensure that the joint will not uncouple if a major bump or incident happens?

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