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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: hemi-itis] #1652309
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For now I would reweld the perches you have and add some gusset plates on the ends similar to the pics of the calvert perches.

Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Sport440] #1652310
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Here's a shot of a perch gusset.

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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: PC-CHARGER] #1652311
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I had a buddy draw me up and laser cut a set of these, 360* of weld around the tube.



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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Bad340fish] #1652312
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Calvert perches $39






I just did Dizusters Dana tonight. Added gussets on the ends of the standard Mororso perches that look exactly like the Calvert style. Had The Miller 250 turned way up, welded a inch or so at a time and let it cool between.
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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: dvw] #1652313
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you don't need all that, this is the way i do it. just go to home depot and get a piece of flat stock and form it around the tube as it is welded.


Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Quicktree] #1652314
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you don't need all that, this is the way i do it. just go to home depot and get a piece of flat stock and form it around the tube as it is welded.






All I did was add the flat stock on the ends similar to whats added on the Calvert style and welded it on.
Doug

Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: hemi-itis] #1652315
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That's what I figured Installed new rear shocks and noticed something shiney in the rust




I used to have those same perch'es on my small block charger and they ended up looking like a half moons after about 1000miles LOL. Ended up making some perch'es very similar to the Calvert's


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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: charger410] #1652316
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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Copper Dart] #1652317
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A few years ago I put Caltracs on my car. The first few launches with those crushed the axle tubes and broke the spring perches. After I replaced the rear end housing I used Calverts spring perches. They are very nice...no problems ever since. Here is a pick of my new perches with the old crushed axle tubes that were getting thrown out.


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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Quicktree] #1652318
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you don't need all that, this is the way i do it. just go to home depot and get a piece of flat stock and form it around the tube as it is welded.






I like that!! I piece of flatstock blacksmithed into place and welded!


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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Quicktree] #1652319
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That's what I figured Installed new rear shocks and noticed something shiney in the rust


thats because all the weld is on the bracket and zero penetration on the tube



If I was to place a bet, I would agree, however we by the pic have no way to know whether the perch was prepared in the weld area with a 45 degree chamfer, not likely, but possible, and there is no visible chamfer seen in the un welded ends. The weld looks like it was maybe done in place, ie overhead stick, requiring more welding skills and probably apprehension about overheating and warping the housing?

And since the highest stressed area of this area is the weld ends, likely at one end it has the least penetration at weld start up, I unusually turn the corner and go inside the perch at the ends with the weld a bit.

No one has mentioned any warpage issues and rewelding the housing ends, after this now being the second weld up?

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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: jcc] #1652320
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Thank you all for the pictures and advise
Brought the car over to my friends shop.He crawled under the car on my flatbed to see what he needed to do. He showed me how the other perch was twisted. Thankfully I had a set in stock and he picked up some 1/2 inch u-bolts to upgrade the smaller ones I had. I'll bring the car back in the morning.Should take a few hours to box the replacement perches and weld them in properly with some PENETRATION!!

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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: hemi-itis] #1652321
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The invoice taped to the box Was billed to me by Bob Koller Dodge in Naperville Il and dated 8/19/93 ,amount $7.31 for 2 perches.



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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: hemi-itis] #1652322
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This just happened saturday 6,500 rpm shift on my buddy's gasser.
Almost put the car in the woods.


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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Spaceman Spiff] #1652323
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Mine broke at South Mountain on Sunday of our Carlisle weekend

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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: hemi-itis] #1652324
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This was the other side after removing the u-bolts If I was in the left lane,woulda taken down the TREE

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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: hemi-itis] #1652325
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Did it bend the axle tube?


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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: hemi-itis] #1652326
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This was the other side after removing the u-bolts If I was in the left lane,woulda taken down the TREE




This is where the boxed in units come into play..
you got your $7 worth

Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: Clanton] #1652327
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Did it bend the axle tube?



Luckily not,broke the weld on the rt side and twisted the left.

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Re: Broken weld on spring perch??? [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1652328
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This was the other side after removing the u-bolts If I was in the left lane,woulda taken down the TREE




This is where the boxed in units come into play..
you got your $7 worth





No Mr.p ,the $7.00 ones were installed today They been "in stock" since '93. Welded them in and added some bracing

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