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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639562 07/21/14 02:55 AM 07/21/14 02:55 AM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA Jim_Lusk I Live Here
Jim_Lusk I Live Here Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 18,678 Fresno, CA	Quote: Well I have a video...It sucks because it was a last minute job with my hand held camera velcro'd to the dash and my chip didn't have much recording time left on it but it's a small window into what track day was like. I only made about 10 laps to check the car and the track out, next time will be a bit more serious. Youtube Linky Looks good. I should have some footage of the car from the 2007 SFSF event, but I haven't watched the video in a long time. Steve may know as he's got a copy.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639563 07/21/14 05:46 PM 07/21/14 05:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona	Quote: Well I have a video...It sucks because it was a last minute job with my hand held camera velcro'd to the dash and my chip didn't have much recording time left on it but it's a small window into what track day was like. I only made about 10 laps to check the car and the track out, next time will be a bit more serious. Youtube Linky Did you have the lower gears in the car when you ran it?

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: dart4forte] #1639564 07/21/14 06:15 PM 07/21/14 06:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Nope, 4 speed and 2.94's as delivered. It actually runs pretty darn well just like it is, I was loosing traction exiting the slower corners (worn tires were a factor).

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639565 07/21/14 06:22 PM 07/21/14 06:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Optima is going to have a Ultimate Streetcar deal in Portland I think this weekend. You should make a showing. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 72Swinger] #1639566 07/21/14 06:33 PM 07/21/14 06:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Man that would be cool! Not sure I can make it though. Ironically Ill be in Portland Tues/Weds this week.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639567 07/21/14 06:49 PM 07/21/14 06:49 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 723 Houston Tx Uhcoog1 super stock
Uhcoog1 super stock Joined: May 2005 Posts: 723 Houston Tx	Thanks for sharing the video, Scott! Car runs great! Definitely a beast -'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar -'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639568 07/21/14 06:55 PM 07/21/14 06:55 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona	Quote: Nope, 4 speed and 2.94's as delivered. It actually runs pretty darn well just like it is, I was loosing traction exiting the slower corners (worn tires were a factor). With a little gear in the butt that thing should grab RPM rather quickly. Was the torque a help going out of the corners. notice you had to down shift quite a few times.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639569 07/21/14 07:09 PM 07/21/14 07:09 PM
Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia J jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds..
jcc If you can't dazzle em with diamonds.. J Joined: Dec 2003 Posts: 22,696 Bitopia	Quote: Man that would be cool! Not sure I can make it though. Ironically Ill be in Portland Tues/Weds this week. I am sure there are qualified drivers here that might offer to drive said car at a discount rate and are not yet on the TSA "do not fly" list. And just to be clear, I might be on the list. Reality check, that half the population is smarter then 50% of the people and it's a constantly contested fact.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: jcc] #1639570 07/21/14 07:19 PM 07/21/14 07:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Im no super star race car driver thats for sure, especially on a track Ive only been around a few times in a car Im not yet totally familiar/comfortable in......But that'll change with practice. We'll see about this weekend, its a longshot. Yes the torque is Very handy!

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: jcc] #1639571 07/21/14 07:20 PM 07/21/14 07:20 PM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 723 Houston Tx Uhcoog1 super stock
Uhcoog1 super stock Joined: May 2005 Posts: 723 Houston Tx	Quote: Quote: Man that would be cool! Not sure I can make it though. Ironically Ill be in Portland Tues/Weds this week. I am sure there are qualified drivers here that might offer to drive said car at a discount rate and are not yet on the TSA "do not fly" list. And just to be clear, I might be on the list. If Scott can't run the car and wants to have a 'hired gun' run the car, that hired gun needs to be Tim Werner. -'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar -'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639572 07/21/14 08:44 PM 07/21/14 08:44 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,133 Mesa, Arizona	Quote: Im no super star race car drovet thats for sure, especially on a track Ive only been around a few times in a car Im not yet totally familiar/comfortable in......But that'll change with practice. We'll see about this weekend, its a longshot. Yes the torque is Very handy! Hard to beat a stroker

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: dart4forte] #1639573 07/22/14 02:56 AM 07/22/14 02:56 AM
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72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Portland in a paddled Hellcat http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As0MWXZVArw Last edited by 72Swinger; 07/22/14 02:56 AM. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 72Swinger] #1639574 07/22/14 06:52 PM 07/22/14 06:52 PM
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kotacars member K Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 126 mass	Okay after seeing the redbrick and the hellcat run I want in on a match up road race

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: kotacars] #1639575 07/22/14 08:33 PM 07/22/14 08:33 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,998 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,998 Oregon	Same power to weight ratio so it would come down to driver skill and tires. The Hellcat probably has better aero so maybe an advantage on a long track. The Hellcat is super heavy so dragging all that weight around the track would take a toll on the tires and brakes. Now if you put the Hellcat engine in the Valiant you would have a fun car.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: kotacars] #1639576 07/22/14 08:34 PM 07/22/14 08:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Im at the track now. No Valiant, just not enough time to make that happen Ill tell you one thing, if I saw the Valiant even hold its own against a Hellcat and I owned the Hellcat, Id want my money back

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639577 07/22/14 08:36 PM 07/22/14 08:36 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,998 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 30,998 Oregon	I've seen that Valiant go right by a fair number of Vipers at the track. Viper guys usually aren't too happy about it either.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: AndyF] #1639578 07/22/14 08:47 PM 07/22/14 08:47 PM
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kotacars member K Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 126 mass	Now I am really curious how my car will do it has more power more transmission and gear better front to rear ratio and lighter

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: kotacars] #1639579 07/22/14 08:56 PM 07/22/14 08:56 PM
Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska 72Swinger master
72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Quote: Now I am really curious how my car will do it has more power more transmission and gear better front to rear ratio and lighter only ONE way to find out. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 72Swinger] #1639580 07/22/14 09:05 PM 07/22/14 09:05 PM
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kotacars member K Joined: Apr 2008 Posts: 126 mass	Well I have had it at road Atlanta and I have way past 160mph and suspension is still mopar most of it lol

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: kotacars] #1639581 07/22/14 09:29 PM 07/22/14 09:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,466 So Cal	Quote: Well I have had it at road Atlanta and I have way past 160mph and suspension is still mopar most of it lol Torsion bars and leaf springs? What is "it"? Please share some details and pictures of it?

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