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I wouldn't count out the Valiant against that Dart, but I wouldn't bet against the Dart either! Having a stiff strong chassis is paramount to fine tuning the other components of a race car, takes out a lot of variables. The modern Hemi drivetrain, fuel injection, electric steering, etc. will make that Dart easier to drive smoothly, which usually equals speed. At any rate, we'll eventually find out when we get the chance to flog them at the same event.

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Cool thanks Steve! What was the engine combo like before the 427 build?

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IIRC, 360 (or 340) with edelbrock heads. Edelbrock heads re-used after port work on current motor.

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Cool thanks Steve! What was the engine combo like before the 427 build?

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IIRC, 360 (or 340) with edelbrock heads. Edelbrock heads re-used after port work on current motor.

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The motor was a j headed 360, I have it in my 69 dart.

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In the pictures here I can see the edelbrock aluminum heads: http://www.mrmopar.com/SpringFling2007/WillowSprings/

I believe those were added at some time. Maybe he put the steel head ones back to sell. Or this E-brock head motor is a whole motor after yours? He may have ran the car with the steel J-heads back on it after doing the headgasket. IIRC, a ebrock head might have got hurt

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That full boogie Dart Hotchkiss is doing will be hard to beat by any of us, but then again, with as much work and $ as it has in it you may as well resurrect a retired NASCAR!

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Kevin- when will your dart sport be done? How bout it, you in for an A body shootout?

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Kevin- when will your dart sport be done? How bout it, you in for an A body shootout?

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I'm always up for stuff like that, but unfortunately the logistics and expense of getting it together will make it interesting.

The west coast is a long way from MI. Just to put it into perspective, I can ship my car in a container to Europe for about the same price as enclosed shipping to Los Angeles.

If this were to honestly happen, it would be best once the Brick is back together. I don't think it would be appropriate to have an A Body shootout without the car that inspired just about all of us.

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I don't think it would be appropriate to have an A Body shootout without the car that inspired just about all of us.

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I have a feeling a lot more trick and expensive parts are going to end up on that Dart. We are just seeing the basic chassis get built. I think/hope the idea is to take on those six figure plus Pro Touring cars at the Optima Challenge type events.

I notice there hasn't been any update pictures recently. Maybe saving them for a magazine spread. Can't blame them.

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Nope... nothing trick and nothing expensive. You have to remember, I'm cheap and I honestly do not like working on my cars. It has to be simple, or I lose interest real quick.

No big magazine spread planned, but I'm sure it will end up in one of them at some point. No updates because there really hasn't been much to post. Plus that's all up to the PR guys to sort out for Hotchkis.

It will run Optima, but not because that is what the car was built for. It's going to get killed on the design and judging portion. That will be a side show to it's true intention. The car is being built to be run at events like Pikes Peak, Targa Newfoundland, tarmac rallies and even smooth gravel rallies at some point.

Definitely won't see Optima this year because my plan this year is to see how close to the top 5 I can get at an event with my daily driver SRT8 Core. I base lined it a couple weeks ago at Road America as it rolled off the showroom floor with stock pads, stock alignment and the stock Goodyears.

Here are top 15 road course results with me mixed in to the over 3k class. I was running in Exhibition technically since I skipped the Road Rally and Design segments.



If I can get within 2-3 seconds of the DSE Camaro (2nd fastest in Vegas last year) with my daily driver, I will consider that a win. I'm making a couple changes before the next event, but not touching the engine. All bolt on's and no gutting the car or anything like that.

To put the Challenger times in perspective with the Dart... It will be the same engine with more power (tune with headers and no Cats), 1,250 lbs less weight and more tire. Yes, it's not the same chassis, but the Satellite and Challenger are pretty much equal right now, so I don't think the chassis will be a limiting factor really on the Dart.

To put the Challenger times in perspective with an A Body on the same track... it's currently 12 seconds a lap faster than Eric W's Duster was in 2013. My stock 5.7 Challenger last year went 1:52.8 which was 8 seconds a lap faster.

To put this post back in relation to a shoot out (and no, I'm not trying to stir the pot with this comment)... as you can see by the times, it's not always about the car, or how much money you spend.

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Any idea on ETA for the completion of Rick's green brick? I agree, the brick needs to be there.

And any idea on your cars estimated completion date?

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Kevin, your car is scheduled to be done next month or August 2015?

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Any idea on ETA for the completion of Rick's green brick? I agree, the brick needs to be there.

And any idea on your cars estimated completion date?

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Brick should be done by spring of 2015.

Dart should be ready to be fired by mid August and should see the track for shake down shortly after that.

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Best bet is to pick an event like OUSCA or a Musclecar challenge event that coincides with one of those tracks like RA, Mid-Ohio, Joliet Autobahn etc. That way the track rental is covered and the media coverage is free lol. Also is this a shootout of car AND driver or car against car? If its car against car, Kevin is gonna be busy and would probably require steak dinner.

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