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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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07/05/14 12:09 PM
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Houston Tx
Uhcoog1
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Congratulations on the purchase again! I say you hold off on any changes and spend all your money on track time and tires/pads. No paint, no gears, no OD tranny. None of that will make it faster on the track.  And one day I'd love to run our cars together. Andy's car has always been the benchmark in my mind. Maybe at AutoXcuda's track day in Cali in a year or two? Or another event? Steve- how much track time should one expect at y'all's road course track day?
-'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar
-'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course
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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: Uhcoog1]
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07/05/14 12:25 PM
07/05/14 12:25 PM
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Spokane Washington
ScottSmith_Harms
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Wade,
Wise words that won't be ignored. I plan on doing a lot of testing at the local Spokane track in it's current configuration just as suggested, two reasons, one to get some fresh seat time since I'm a bit rusty and unfamiliar with the car, and two, to check out the current combo. Andy's input about the trans/rear will also be taken, mostly because I already have the brand new Passon 5 speed and a new Dr. Diff Yukon 3.91 drop in unit so those are no brainers, however I won't be doing either swap until winter down time sets in.
It would be fun to run our cars together, we can work out a plan down the road but I'm open to it, me, you, Steve, and maybe some other A-body guys could have a little shootout, that would be a hoot!
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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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07/05/14 01:32 PM
07/05/14 01:32 PM
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Houston Tx
Uhcoog1
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It would be fun to run our cars together, we can work out a plan down the road but I'm open to it, me, you, Steve, and maybe some other A-body guys could have a little shootout, that would be a hoot!
That sounds fantastic! Count me in for that shootout.
Track rentals for a half dozen cars or so are usually quite reasonable.
-'02 Dodge Viper Ex-World Challenge racecar
-'73 Duster, 6.1 based 392 hilborn hemi, tko600, full floater rear 9", Hellwig custom bars, viper brakes, built for road course
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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: Uhcoog1]
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07/05/14 02:00 PM
07/05/14 02:00 PM
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Plano, Texas
68cuda440
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It would be fun to run our cars together, we can work out a plan down the road but I'm open to it, me, you, Steve, and maybe some other A-body guys could have a little shootout, that would be a hoot!
That sounds fantastic! Count me in for that shootout.
Track rentals for a half dozen cars or so are usually quite reasonable.
Wow! Depends on when and where but definitely keep me in the loop! My car still needs some assembly and it is more street oriented but I definitely want to get some track time. I would guess it will be running and driving in the spring.
Michael
1968 Barracuda Notchback
Plano, TX
Michael
1968 Barracuda Notchback Coupe
440 EFI 6-pack, T56 Magnum 6-spd
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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: Uhcoog1]
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07/05/14 03:13 PM
07/05/14 03:13 PM
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So Cal
autoxcuda
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Congratulations on the purchase again! I say you hold off on any changes and spend all your money on track time and tires/pads. No paint, no gears, no OD tranny. None of that will make it faster on the track.
And one day I'd love to run our cars together. Andy's car has always been the benchmark in my mind. Maybe at AutoXcuda's track day in Cali in a year or two? Or another event? Steve- how much track time should one expect at y'all's road course track day?
At Spring Fling Speed Festival we run from 8am to 5pm the Thursday before Spring Fling. There is a ton of track time and only two run groups. There's only about 30 cars and it's a big track. Here's some pics and info from this years past event: https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...part=1&vc=1
In the afternoon you can run in about any run group. So if you wish, you could run almost constant from 1pm to 5pm. You and/or the car will need more breaks than the track availability.
The red Valiant has run at Spring Fling Speed Festival before in 2007. Seriously fast. That is where a water pump belt slipped off resulting in a blown head gasket... IIRC, that situation directly log-rolled into the 427 motor build.
The red Valiant at SFSF 2007...
the Crossfire drove from Alberta Canada. The orange Challenger from Phoenix. The blue 68 Barracuda is now owned by Boydsdodge in Canada (he comes down most the time)...
Real 1969 Winston Cup Nascar Hemi Daytona.
Scott here is a link to pictures from that day you might be interested in: http://www.mrmopar.com/SpringFling2007/WillowSprings/
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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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07/05/14 04:52 PM
07/05/14 04:52 PM
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So Cal
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Ok so stock stroke? Man this thing will be a different animal with this stroker. I just took it for a short rip around the neighborhood, little sucker is sure fun to drive!
not just stock stroke, but less heads, less cam relatively, it had 4 piston viper brakes then...
Bob Reed drive it in 2007 and really liked it. He said you can really tell that is has a cage on it. And his personal opinion was that his own 1968 Barracuda was about maxed out chassis-wise without having the roll cage that Tim's Valliant had.
The E-Max Challenger does not have a cage. Seems to do well on track, but really no direct comparison. And Hotchkis is building a new car with with Kevin Wesley...just happens to have an even more extensive roll cage/chassis than the red 68 Valiant. 
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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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07/05/14 06:12 PM
07/05/14 06:12 PM
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The Pale Blue Dot
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Ok so stock stroke? Man this thing will be a different animal with this stroker. I just took it for a short rip around the neighborhood, little sucker is sure fun to drive!
Congrats on getting a car that is far beyond most on the road, not just old Mopars.  Here's a couple of pics from the 07 Speed Fest.
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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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07/05/14 07:05 PM
07/05/14 07:05 PM
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So Cal
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That full boogie Dart Hotchkiss is doing will be hard to beat by any of us, but then again, with as much work and $ as it has in it you may as well resurrect a retired NASCAR! 
The chassis craftmanship is prettier. I'm sure it will be a visual showcase of sorts for Hotchkis.
The cage work and chassis sheet metal is just extensive. I think it's going to have stock suspension pick up points. Or maybe leaf springs moved in. About the only thing in common with the Red Valiant.
The Dart is a Tour De Force. The Red Valiant is a Grassroots Campaign.
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