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Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639402 07/01/14 03:56 AM 07/01/14 03:56 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal	Quote: Well I'm not against original patina but the partial trim bothers me, it would all have to be either removed or be complete. I also like a car to be one color and while it's mostly original paint it's been painted doors forward and the reds don't match so I think I'd want to deal with that as well. I am not looking to make it a show pony, just make it a bit cleaner. I think it wouldn't be too expensive or hard to find to complete the side trim for time being. Yea, the trim and colors.... But could make it even more enjoyable and satisfying out at a track day passing some incredible shiny cars. They way it looks now, just makes you want to cheer for it. How could you not root for that car? When AndyF would post a picture album link to a PIR track day it was hysterical. A 20x10 block of thumnail pictures... and whammo... there's the Valiant. It's sooo much different than everything else. Last edited by autoxcuda; 07/01/14 03:58 AM.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: autoxcuda] #1639403 07/01/14 04:03 AM 07/01/14 04:03 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Good point Steve, that's a great pic

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639404 07/01/14 04:21 AM 07/01/14 04:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal autoxcuda Too Many Posts
autoxcuda Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,467 So Cal	Quote: Good point Steve, that's a great pic I believe AndyF took that picture. Forgot the issue the smoke was from.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: autoxcuda] #1639405 07/01/14 05:33 AM 07/01/14 05:33 AM
Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States P PHJ426 OP master
PHJ426 OP master P Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States	How about F8 survivor green.......? Its a bad bad ride. Once you get it and start running it, the next steps will all fall into place.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: PHJ426] #1639406 07/01/14 08:01 AM 07/01/14 08:01 AM
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72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	My cars first track day had a blue smoke trail too, chased my tail all day thinking I had blow by galore and in adequate breather baffling only to find out when I got home that it was a split valve cover gasket. Must be a first time Mopar at the track voodoo thing.... Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: AndyF] #1639407 07/01/14 11:14 AM 07/01/14 11:14 AM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 240 Plano, Texas 6 68cuda440 enthusiast
68cuda440 enthusiast 6 Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 240 Plano, Texas	Quote: I don't. Tim finished up the fabrication at his shop so I didn't get any final pictures. It looks great though, very clean, very strong and very simple. Scott, Andy - I would like to see how Tim pulled this off, I very much want to do a sway bar like this on my car. If the K-frame needs to be modified I would like to do that before I send it for powder coating. Any details or pictures would be appreciated. Maybe Tim can share some details with us? Thanks, Michael Last edited by 68cuda440; 07/01/14 11:20 AM. Michael 1968 Barracuda Notchback Coupe 440 EFI 6-pack, T56 Magnum 6-spd

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639408 07/01/14 06:22 PM 07/01/14 06:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA 4 48Heap enthusiast
48Heap enthusiast 4 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA	Quote: Sure I can bring it to the Spokane show as long as all goes as predicted upon it's arrival. I figured asking you to bring it to the show was better than asking if I could stop by and look at it. Just in case you weren't aware, the Spokane show is an evening show because the swap meet does one during the day. You are welcome to bring the car to the show at the swap meet and sit under the trees at my Dad's booth if you wanted. My buddy (Kevin) that lives a block from you and myself will be there all day and I expect he will bring his Duster (mine is still dead). Kevin and I usually work the swap meet booth and then run out to the show afterwards. Just an FYI. 15 Chrysler 200S 3.6 15 Challenger R/T 6M STP 74 Duster 360 -> original 4 speed car a.k.a. DionR

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 48Heap] #1639409 07/01/14 07:55 PM 07/01/14 07:55 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: Just in case you weren't aware, the Spokane show is an evening show because the swap meet does one during the day. Well that's confusing? So there are two Mopar events the same date/place, one swap show/day, and one show at night with different groups running each? Where is it held?

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 68cuda440] #1639410 07/01/14 07:58 PM 07/01/14 07:58 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,002 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,002 Oregon	The K-frame is modified. A tube runs thru the front of the K-frame and then the anti-sway bar fits in the tube. The anti-sway bar has splines on each end which drive the arms. The K-frame was also modified to clear the Milodon road race pan. The SB road race pan is fairly wide and it wasn't possible to drop the engine in from above unless the K-frame was modified. Even after all of the modifications we still had trouble dropping the engine into place. I have a bridge crane in my shop so engine installs are usually a 15 minute job but not this one! Tim almost got the whiz wheel out but we finally got everything to fit. I'd recommend a few mods the next time the engine comes out though.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: autoxcuda] #1639411 07/01/14 08:03 PM 07/01/14 08:03 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,002 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,002 Oregon	Quote: Quote: Good point Steve, that's a great pic I believe AndyF took that picture. Forgot the issue the smoke was from. The car corners hard enough that Tim had to solve a lot of various oil leaks. A 8 3/4 rear end will leak if you corner hard enough. So will the valve covers and the dipstick. I did a bunch of machine work on the existing combo to fix the leaks. I used cast valve covers and machined them for o-ring fittings for the breathers. We used a remote puke can for the breathers which should solve that issue.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: AndyF] #1639412 07/01/14 08:22 PM 07/01/14 08:22 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,137 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,137 Mesa, Arizona	Quote: Quote: Quote: Good point Steve, that's a great pic I believe AndyF took that picture. Forgot the issue the smoke was from. The car corners hard enough that Tim had to solve a lot of various oil leaks. A 8 3/4 rear end will leak if you corner hard enough. So will the valve covers and the dipstick. I did a bunch of machine work on the existing combo to fix the leaks. I used cast valve covers and machined them for o-ring fittings for the breathers. We used a remote puke can for the breathers which should solve that issue. I saw a road car that had baffles in the axle tubes to prevent washing out the wheel bearings. Real problem when running a synthetic. Timkin bearings?

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639413 07/01/14 09:21 PM 07/01/14 09:21 PM
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48Heap enthusiast 4 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA	Quote: Quote: Just in case you weren't aware, the Spokane show is an evening show because the swap meet does one during the day. Well that's confusing? So there are two Mopar events the same date/place, one swap show/day, and one show at night with different groups running each? Where is it held? The Early Ford Club does the yearly Swap Meet at the fairgrounds and on Saturday has always done an open cars show. That one isn't a Mopar only show. The Lilac City Mopar club started doing their show the same Saturday a year or two ago, and in order to not compete they do it in the evening. It's out on Sprague at the New Life Church (one block east of University). Registration opens at 4:00 and judging is from 6:00 to 7:30. 15 Chrysler 200S 3.6 15 Challenger R/T 6M STP 74 Duster 360 -> original 4 speed car a.k.a. DionR

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 48Heap] #1639414 07/01/14 10:00 PM 07/01/14 10:00 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Quote: It's out on Sprague at the New Life Church (one block east of University). Registration opens at 4:00 and judging is from 6:00 to 7:30. 2 blocks from my house

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639415 07/01/14 10:23 PM 07/01/14 10:23 PM
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48Heap enthusiast 4 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA	Quote: Quote: It's out on Sprague at the New Life Church (one block east of University). Registration opens at 4:00 and judging is from 6:00 to 7:30. 2 blocks from my house Did you move?? The one time I was at your house, it wasn't even close to Sprague. 15 Chrysler 200S 3.6 15 Challenger R/T 6M STP 74 Duster 360 -> original 4 speed car a.k.a. DionR

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 48Heap] #1639416 07/01/14 10:29 PM 07/01/14 10:29 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard
ScottSmith_Harms Mr Wizzard Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 42,714 Spokane Washington	Nope, 9807 E. Broadway, maybe a long 2 blocks but the nearest intersection is University.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: AndyF] #1639417 07/01/14 11:50 PM 07/01/14 11:50 PM
Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 240 Plano, Texas 6 68cuda440 enthusiast
68cuda440 enthusiast 6 Joined: Jul 2008 Posts: 240 Plano, Texas	Quote: The K-frame is modified. A tube runs thru the front of the K-frame and then the anti-sway bar fits in the tube. The anti-sway bar has splines on each end which drive the arms. I'll take a look at the available room. My understanding of the splined bars is that you could run it inside a 2" tube with bearings on either end. Guess I'll see what it takes to mount up a 2" tube. Quote: The K-frame was also modified to clear the Milodon road race pan. The SB road race pan is fairly wide and it wasn't possible to drop the engine in from above unless the K-frame was modified. Even after all of the modifications we still had trouble dropping the engine into place. I have a bridge crane in my shop so engine installs are usually a 15 minute job but not this one! Tim almost got the whiz wheel out but we finally got everything to fit. I'd recommend a few mods the next time the engine comes out though. Yeah... about that... I have a 440 with a '75 spool K-frame and a Milodon road race pan. I put that in 10 years ago. Some slicing, dicing, and welding was required. The last few times I had the engine out / in I did it as an assembly from under. Dropping it in from the top may not be physically possible. Michael Plano, TX Michael 1968 Barracuda Notchback Coupe 440 EFI 6-pack, T56 Magnum 6-spd

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 68cuda440] #1639418 07/02/14 12:04 AM 07/02/14 12:04 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,002 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,002 Oregon	We used a 2x3 steel tube then machined up some aluminum bushings for the end. I don't know where the pictures are, I took some during construction but I can't find them. Must be on a different computer.

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: ScottSmith_Harms] #1639419 07/02/14 02:40 AM 07/02/14 02:40 AM
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48Heap enthusiast 4 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA	Seems about right, but I was only there once and it was a couple of years ago. Seems farther to me, but I don't drive down Broadway often, at least not past Farr anyway. 15 Chrysler 200S 3.6 15 Challenger R/T 6M STP 74 Duster 360 -> original 4 speed car a.k.a. DionR

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: AndyF] #1639420 07/02/14 02:43 AM 07/02/14 02:43 AM
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48Heap enthusiast 4 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA	Quote: We used a 2x3 steel tube then machined up some aluminum bushings for the end. I don't know where the pictures are, I took some during construction but I can't find them. Must be on a different computer. The pictures I saw where on a message board, if that helps any. Don't think you posted them, though, so it must have been Tim. Might not be your pictures, but maybe?? Just trying to help (and get back on topic). 15 Chrysler 200S 3.6 15 Challenger R/T 6M STP 74 Duster 360 -> original 4 speed car a.k.a. DionR

Re: no talk of Tim's Valiant being for sale here [Re: 48Heap] #1639421 07/02/14 03:16 AM 07/02/14 03:16 AM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA 4 48Heap enthusiast
48Heap enthusiast 4 Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 351 Spokane, WA	Quote: Quote: We used a 2x3 steel tube then machined up some aluminum bushings for the end. I don't know where the pictures are, I took some during construction but I can't find them. Must be on a different computer. The pictures I saw where on a message board, if that helps any. Don't think you posted them, though, so it must have been Tim. Might not be your pictures, but maybe?? Just trying to help (and get back on topic). My mistake, wasn't either you or Tim. Completely different car. 15 Chrysler 200S 3.6 15 Challenger R/T 6M STP 74 Duster 360 -> original 4 speed car a.k.a. DionR

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