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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: ] #1633405
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Sure glad Mr. Murphy and his Chicago veterano's made the race. I hope he left all his bad luck at Xenia and brings home the hardware at Norwalk. I had some nice pictures but it seems my camera card has quit working???? so this is a Mike Belcher pic

Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: joshking440] #1633406
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Well, to clear up Reeferman and all the other talkers on the board...there was no race because no one showed up....there was also no sponsorship money for that class...I ended up paying for it out of my pocket last year as well... but thats my choice.

2 cars isnt a race...anywhere...




Josh I understand you position but 2 cars ARE A RACE..
too bad you didnt get more cars... so in your opinion
how many have to show to be a race... glad you had
a good weekend

Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: joshking440] #1633407
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You can't advertize a race with a specific class, let a guy pay to race and drag his car across the country to come there and then tell him to pound sand because you failed to promote the class. And if you decided to not run the class, then you should have at least helped him with his entry and travel expenses IMO.


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1633408
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Well, to clear up Reeferman and all the other talkers on the board...there was no race because no one showed up....there was also no sponsorship money for that class...I ended up paying for it out of my pocket last year as well... but thats my choice.

2 cars isnt a race...anywhere...




Josh I understand you position but 2 cars ARE A RACE..
too bad you didnt get more cars... so in your opinion
how many have to show to be a race... glad you had
a good weekend





I agree, I've seen Milan race and pay two/three car fields.


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: joshking440] #1633409
06/30/14 07:44 PM
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Well, to clear up Reeferman and all the other talkers on the board...there was no race because no one showed up....there was also no sponsorship money for that class...I ended up paying for it out of my pocket last year as well... but thats my choice.

2 cars isnt a race...anywhere...




You wonder why people on here run their mouth when you have a crap attitude. Yes 2 cars make a race and if 2 cars entered the race they should be paid unless it was stated on a flier that there was a minimun car count that would be paid.These guys spend their hard earned money to travel to your event and get there and find out there is no class because of no other cars I would be pissed. Even at my local track there is a minimun payout on a bad car count day. Thats where you need sponsors witch you can't seam to get.


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: slippery440] #1633410
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Listen.... I called sanders and let him know there were no cars for the class and he may have to switch classes. Which he did before a convertor issue.

Rossio lives 7 miles from the track. Who was let in for free. As well as his driver.

It's not like I didn't know what was going on.

Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: joshking440] #1633411
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At least I can feel all the love flowing from my Moparts family.

One day there will be no races because no one wants to put their neck out to make it happen. And when you do you get brow beat by people that don't show up or like reeferman don't even exist.

I'm still blown away that people have a leg to stand on to complain. Especially if you didn't show up. We have paid even when we are rained out if racing had started and one race we had to call the whole thing and the racers got a credit to this one.

How can it get better than that.

I see more and more of what's going on in this hobby everyday and continue to stick my dik out so this doesn't dry up and people still find something to complain about. This hobby is cutting off it own nose.




Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: joshking440] #1633412
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Listen.... I called sanders and let him know there were no cars for the class and he may have to switch classes.

Rossio lives 7 miles from the track.

It's not like I didn't know what was going on.




If they knew in advance that's a completely different deal,


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: Get-X] #1633413
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Wow....talk about a bunch of haters, LOL

I posted on fastmopars BEFORE the race that I wouldn't be there. AND that I was responsible for Clinton not making it. (I am painting Clinton's car)

All I can say is its so typical to see all the negative comments and criticism of the 10.5 class. Unfortunately it just worked out that most cars are not done. Yea I guess it takes more ? To build these cars, they aren't bracket cars with 440's with 509 purple shaft cams and 727/Dana 60 lmao

Say and type what. You want, I'll bet its a real show in September, I don't recall talking so much $hit ......until I'm up and running. Lmao

Josh thanks for all your tireless efforts, no one seems to ever say that enough

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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: joshking440] #1633414
06/30/14 08:47 PM
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At least I can feel all the love flowing from my Moparts family.

One day there will be no races because no one wants to put their neck out to make it happen. And when you do you get brow beat by people that don't show up or like reeferman don't even exist.

I'm still blown away that people have a leg to stand on to complain. Especially if you didn't show up. We have paid even when we are rained out if racing had started and one race we had to call the whole thing and the racers got a credit to this one.

How can it get better than that.

I see more and more of what's going on in this hobby everyday and continue to stick my dik out so this doesn't dry up and people still find something to complain about. This hobby is cutting off it own nose.








I have reserved comment to this point, its not that I feel you are personally addressing anyone, but let me provide my view;

You can’t be a half bad guy, as you like and support the Mopar community – we have never met and I do not judge, so please take the following as constructive criticism.

1. There have been a few lingering questions since about late march early may. I and a few others have been clinging on for answers – none provided.
2. You have posted more in the last 14 hours than you have the prior 3 months, not sure I get it.
3. Special event insurance, no I’m not a promoter, but I have been around a long time – look into it – then you can provide a reasonable contingency plan if a rainout occurs, protects you and the racer. I know its not cheap, but it is far more of a $$ benefit than a burden.
4. Four days prior to the start of the event the question was asked by someone if you had the run order established, your reply was no – guess I don’t get that either – even though it isn’t the least bit important to me, the lack of a run order screams the lack of organization.
5. Making purse structure at the event based on gate draw is a recipe for disaster, ask the recently folded promoter. Establish a firm plan prior and stick to it, whatever that may be.


I was loaded and ready to roll days ahead and pulled the plug on my plans at the last minute due to weather threat, KK is my home track so travel expenses were not any of the consideration factors. I race solely for the fun of it; I couldn’t see risking the chance with so many uncertainties as the aggregation factor would have clearly offset the fun factor.

I’m confident you will grow through this if you so desire, the Mopar community is resilient – I will look forward to that point in time…………….

Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: Jerry Kathe] #1633415
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"One day there will be no races because no one wants to put their neck out to make it happen."

These days are closer than you think. The bow tie boys have seen it happen with Super Chevy Sunday. The Bristol and Clay City Mopar meets are already being combined with all brands. The Classic used to be 5 races and now down to one, CB has quit doing anything and the Nats are getting beat up and also are a lot smaller than in years past. The Bob George series had to cancel it first race 5 days before it was to happen. Sponsors are becoming less and less, just look at the midways. We were looking at the back of some of the older t shirts some were wearing and the list of sponsors on the shirts have almost all dissappered. Just my 2 cents, if you don't attend don't complain, I can't race any more but still try to attend all I can and support all the Mopar stuff because I enjoy the people and the racing. And I do appreciate the ones who bring their cars, both show and race, to the events so people like me can enjoy. And yes I did have a blast.

Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: Frito] #1633416
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If the 10.5 rules stay as is its a dead class waiting on the obituary. I've never seen such a bunch of guys that talk racing all year instead of getting their race cars built. If they don't open their eyes and build on a fat tire NA class against the 10.5 no-shows the class is toast. Given the proper rules and weight-breaks the class could be a huge success.


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: pittsburghracer] #1633417
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If the 10.5 rules stay as is its a dead class waiting on the obituary. I've never seen such a bunch of guys that talk racing all year instead of getting their race cars built. If they don't open their eyes and build on a fat tire NA class against the 10.5 no-shows the class is toast. Given the proper rules and weight-breaks the class could be a huge success.




Yea ok, all that from a guy that has never showed up to one race yet !


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: pittsburghracer] #1633418
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If the 10.5 rules stay as is its a dead class waiting on the obituary. I've never seen such a bunch of guys that talk racing all year instead of getting their race cars built. If they don't open their eyes and build on a fat tire NA class against the 10.5 no-shows the class is toast. Given the proper rules and weight-breaks the class could be a huge success.




Josh please just let the big tire cry baby's in, as long as they meet the weight etc....
Lol it will be even sweeter to put them on the trailer !
It's not a bracket race....it's head the #uck up !

Where's bird when you need him ?


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: pittsburghracer] #1633419
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If the 10.5 rules stay as is its a dead class waiting on the obituary. I've never seen such a bunch of guys that talk racing all year instead of getting their race cars built. If they don't open their eyes and build on a fat tire NA class against the 10.5 no-shows the class is toast. Given the proper rules and weight-breaks the class could be a huge success.




If josh lets you slide on the tire.....can you meet the rest of the rules ? Or you got a problem with the weight also ? Lol potato chip race car you got lol


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: n20mstr] #1633420
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If the 10.5 rules stay as is its a dead class waiting on the obituary. I've never seen such a bunch of guys that talk racing all year instead of getting their race cars built. If they don't open their eyes and build on a fat tire NA class against the 10.5 no-shows the class is toast. Given the proper rules and weight-breaks the class could be a huge success.




Yea ok, all that from a guy that has never showed up to one race yet !




Nor have I. I'm no hater, I love the 10.5 class, and would have one if I had the time. I'm a otr truck driver and get home a couple of days a month, so no car or pay someone way too much money to build one. I've considered buying Daurity's duster as it seems to be a steal. Anyway, I like Josh and wish him and MMW the best, I simply ran my mouth before I had the whole story.


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Thanks to Josh, the MMW crew and KilKare crew for putting on a great event this weekend as my family and I had a great weekend!!



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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: 69dart] #1633422
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Could someone give 1 good reason why a big tire class would work better than the tt5 class. I think there is already a class that you are talking of . It is called top fuel. I don't get where you guys are coming from that did not enter, Just a bunch of blow hards.

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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: hustlin hoosier] #1633423
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Could someone give 1 good reason why a big tire class would work better than the tt5 class. I think there is already a class that you are talking of . It is called top fuel. I don't get where you guys are coming from that did not enter, Just a bunch of blow hards.




They jealous haters....lol

Can't run with us so they bash us


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Re: MMW @ KILKARE JUNE 28-29 [Re: n20mstr] #1633424
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Could someone give 1 good reason why a big tire class would work better than the tt5 class. I think there is already a class that you are talking of . It is called top fuel. I don't get where you guys are coming from that did not enter, Just a bunch of blow hards.




They jealous haters....lol

Can't run with us so they bash us





I don't think I was bashing, I was speaking the truth. You guys can't keep your junk running to support the class. I wouldn't run your class if you paid me. Just a bunch of TALKERS.


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422 Indy headed small block
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