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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: 1320Dart] #1623140
05/23/14 02:20 AM
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Btween a rock and a hard place
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Did the car come from poky?what part of Idaho you from? Valley crankshaft in garden city builds some nice mopar engines and does very nice machine work, if your on this end of the state.Mike can help you out.

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: Cheatham] #1623141
05/23/14 08:27 AM
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Cheatham-
Could you tell me a little more about tour build? I'm all ears and a double chin!


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: moparlulu] #1623142
05/23/14 08:31 AM
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Yes I did. I got it from Cal Percy. Boy did I get the short end of that stick. I'm in Boise


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: pittsburghracer] #1623143
05/23/14 08:36 AM
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I really have to make each dollar count as well. A lot of people have been telling me that I HAVE to run a vacuum pump. I feel its one more thing in the way and one more thing to go wrong.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1623144
05/23/14 08:46 AM
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I hope to get some numbers fairly soon on my heads. I need them anyways to order my Bullet cam.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: 1320Dart] #1623145
05/23/14 08:06 PM
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Cheatham-
Could you tell me a little more about tour build? I'm all ears and a double chin!


Muscle Motors did my shortblock, flat tops .010 in the hole Ross piston cut for B1 or indy head, the rods and crank are a china brand id have to look up the name but Mike at Muscle Motors has enuff faith in them for what im doing then I have no choice but to rely on it, Heads are 57cciirc and .051 cosmetic gaskets = 15-15.5 compression Bullet solid roller custom grind 7000 rpm max, oil thru pushrods, Jesel rockers, SV1 alky carb, B1 heads I bought used from a member here and were already ported and in the 400cfm range, 727 tranny with CRT internals where needed car is a 73 dart lightened and 4.10 gear converter is a 4800 8in, foot braked, right now im working the coilover mounts and waiting for custom valved front coilovers to arrive, hopefully here soon I can get it finished up.

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: Cheatham] #1623146
05/23/14 08:24 PM
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Damn! that sounds so close to my build. you're farther along than I am.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: 1320Dart] #1623147
05/23/14 11:26 PM
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didn't read everything but if the block hasn't been started i would seriously consider going raised cam with larger cam journals. i ordered mine with stock dimensions because i already had a jesel drive but in hindsight wish i had gone the raised cam/larger journal. yea it's more money but imho at this level money well spent.

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: jamesc] #1623148
05/23/14 11:38 PM
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Sounds like it be a fast dart, when I saw that paint my first thought was Cal Percy, painted just like his cars. Cant believe old Cal would give some one the short end though, well maybe he would I guess.

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: 1320Dart] #1623149
05/24/14 01:09 AM
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Damn! that sounds so close to my build. you're farther along than I am.


forgot to mention its a world product aluminum block.

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: 1320Dart] #1623150
05/24/14 02:51 AM
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moparlulu-
Yes I did. I got it from Cal Percy. Boy did I get the short end of that stick. I'm in Boise


yep ,Cal is a great guy but your not the first. If you are going to have your heads done, Talk to Wes King . He'll make those heads talk to ya!

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: wyoming] #1623151
05/24/14 02:59 AM
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Sounds like it be a fast dart, when I saw that paint my first thought was Cal Percy, painted just like his cars. Cant believe old Cal would give some one the short end though, well maybe he would I guess.


Glenn, How the hell ya been? Enjoying you new area? Miss seeing your car at firebird.

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: 1320Dart] #1623152
05/24/14 03:20 AM
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What rod journal size are you using? K1 rods look very nice. I've never held one in my hand. Just seen pics. Have you heard of Molnar rods? I've been kinda checking them out. I would LOVE a set of Corrillo's but my wallet doesn't.
I don't like beating the hell out of my stuff either. That's why I've opted to run lower RPM.
BTW... how heavy is your Daytona? etc....




Molnar's are nice rods...Iv'e been using them in lots of builds lately

Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: hemiiroc] #1623153
05/24/14 05:37 AM
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If it was my own engine I would run a 55-60mm camshaft, over the factory journals. Probably overkill at the moment, but if you step it up later you don't have pay more $$$ to have the cam tunnel machined for it.
A vacuum pump can always be added later on, I would go with atleast a 0.043" top and second ring anyway, rather than the old school 1/16" ring.


Alan Jones
Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: jamesc] #1623154
05/26/14 11:09 AM
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I did order it with the larger cam journals. But not the raised cam.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: wyoming] #1623155
05/26/14 11:12 AM
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I didn't think Cal would do that either. Boy was I wrong.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: Cheatham] #1623156
05/26/14 11:17 AM
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I ordered a KB block in January. I'm still waiting.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: hemiiroc] #1623157
05/26/14 11:21 AM
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I'm sure leaning towards them for sure.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: LA360] #1623158
05/26/14 11:28 AM
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If it was my own engine I would run a 55-60mm camshaft, over the factory journals. Probably overkill at the moment, but if you step it up later you don't have pay more $$$ to have the cam tunnel machined for it.
A vacuum pump can always be added later on, I would go with at least a 0.043" top and second ring anyway, rather than the old school 1/16" ring.



Yep I did at least order the block with the 54mm cam journals. and I'm split on if I should go 1mm top and second ring or .043.


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Re: Requesting guidance on a new build.... [Re: Cheatham] #1623159
05/26/14 03:56 PM
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Cheatham-
Could you tell me a little more about tour build? I'm all ears and a double chin!


Muscle Motors did my shortblock, flat tops .010 in the hole Ross piston cut for B1 or indy head, the rods and crank are a china brand id have to look up the name but Mike at Muscle Motors has enuff faith in them for what im doing then I have no choice but to rely on it, Heads are 57cciirc and .051 cosmetic gaskets = 15-15.5 compression Bullet solid roller custom grind 7000 rpm max, oil thru pushrods, Jesel rockers, SV1 alky carb, B1 heads I bought used from a member here and were already ported and in the 400cfm range, 727 tranny with CRT internals where needed car is a 73 dart lightened and 4.10 gear converter is a 4800 8in, foot braked, right now im working the coilover mounts and waiting for custom valved front coilovers to arrive, hopefully here soon I can get it finished up.




I ordered a KB block in January. I'm still waiting.
I'm pretty sure I will run Ross Pistons and Bullet Cam as well. Are you running the 54mm cam? I was going to be using T&D for my rockers. For the crank I've been looking at Ohio Crankshaft.


Greg

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