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biggest torsion bars with tti hemi headers #1622925
05/21/14 04:10 AM
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will anybody have pics or info...whats the biggest i can fit?car is 70 b body gen 2 hemi..greatly would be appreciated
id like to run the 1.10 hotchkis...but im afraid the wont fit...

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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: sublimehemi] #1622926
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Not sure the point of the question, kinda like an unsharpened pencil.

TB dia seldom interferes with headers more then a tap with a ball peen hammer won't solve


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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: jcc] #1622927
05/23/14 01:00 AM
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I have the 2 1/4" TTI headers on my cuda with a 528 hemi and I don't think if I can even fit anything bigger than the stock small block ones without having to dent the tubes. I bought the hotchkis bars, but might have to send them back. I don't know how different your b body will be though.

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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: 73cuda340] #1622928
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I have the 2 1/4" TTI headers on my cuda with a 528 hemi and I don't think if I can even fit anything bigger than the stock small block ones without having to dent the tubes. I bought the hotchkis bars, but might have to send them back. I don't know how different your b body will be though.




thank you for your help...i have 2 1/8....which side was worse...drive or pass?

when i talked to tti...they said .96 but i want bigger...i will mock mine up with stock 318 bars..and go from there...anybody else have anything to add?


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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: 73cuda340] #1622929
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Bigger TB then .96 Dia, say he biggest @1.24?, .28" difference in dia, or .14" in radius or slightly more then an 1/8" bigger?


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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: jcc] #1622930
05/23/14 09:47 AM
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If it hits just on one side you could possibly shim the motor to gain the desired clearance. I had to with my B block a little shim goes a long way FWIW

Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: jcc] #1622931
05/23/14 11:33 AM
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Bigger TB then .96 Dia, say he biggest @1.24?, .28" difference in dia, or .14" in radius or slightly more then an 1/8" bigger?




This is amazing when you think of it. I know these are aftermarket parts being installed on 40 year old cars and things happen plus tolerances or lack of them do "stack up" but only 0.14"? That is tight when we are talking about a unibody.

As with any custom / aftermarket part into an old Mopar like ours there is a certain amount of "fitting" that might be required.

If you think this is bad checkout Dan's post on the Borgeson steering box. That is a great selling point to go with a cheaper heavier Firm Feel Stage 3 box for me any day of the week.

Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: PHJ426] #1622932
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Obviously i missed the bus on this thread. best of my knowledge there is only one member here with the largest TB of 1.24, Mitch and less then a handfull have over 1.12", that means what the OP is talking about is a difference from .96 up to say 1.06 of .050", if he is anywhere that close to begin with, simply starting the motor will lose that .050" gap, the problem is not and never has been the diameter of the TB, it is as mentioned already, stacked up tolerances, 40 year old cars, motors not positioned as needed, etc, not the TB diameter.


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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: jcc] #1622933
05/24/14 12:37 AM
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I have 1.14" and standard TTI step headers on an A-body. It's very close and self-clearencing.

The factory left hand headpipes on just a 340 A-body are twisted, dimpled, and have a smaller tube welded to a bigger tube. All that just for factory exhaust manifold with ONE tube around the torsion bar, not 4 tubes spagetti-ing around there.

A torsion bar car with rear steering leaves very very little room for headers.



A lot of things to snake around down there.


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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: sublimehemi] #1622934
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I have the 2 1/4" TTI headers on my cuda with a 528 hemi and I don't think if I can even fit anything bigger than the stock small block ones without having to dent the tubes. I bought the hotchkis bars, but might have to send them back. I don't know how different your b body will be though.




thank you for your help...i have 2 1/8....which side was worse...drive or pass?

when i talked to tti...they said .96 but i want bigger...i will mock mine up with stock 318 bars..and go from there...anybody else have anything to add?




The passenger side is worse. Im afraid that just driving the car with any suspension movement will dent the tube. I would of loved to have installed the new hotchkis bars that I bought, but I guess that wont be happening.


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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: 73cuda340] #1622935
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I am running the 2-1/8" TTI headers on my 69 Sat with a 528 Hemi with 1.03 torsion bars with zero clearance issues. First set of headers I ever put on that did not need "massaging".

Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: Lee446] #1622936
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I am running the 2-1/8" TTI headers on my 69 Sat with a 528 Hemi with 1.03 torsion bars with zero clearance issues. First set of headers I ever put on that did not need "massaging".




Since you have a b body with same size header...how much room do you have...on pass side?


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Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: sublimehemi] #1622937
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Sorry,I was out of town. I will check tomorrow eve.

Re: biigest torsion bars with tti hemi headers [Re: Lee446] #1622938
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I have well over 1/2" of clearance on the passenger side at the closest spot between the tube and the T bar.







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