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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: BPE]
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04/30/14 11:46 PM
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Big 4" 
Why not just run the same pan and an oil cooler?
Rod
LOL Rod, get your mind outta the gutter!
I don't want to run a cooler, not a fan of the idea to be honest.
This whole thread really begs the question though- how much oil does one really need to run? Many only run 6 quarts in deep 7 or 8 qt pans...This is a street car and strip, but is the Kevko pan enough, atleast with a standard volume pump? It would seem to me no, but I am no expert
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: mshred]
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05/01/14 12:04 AM
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I have been running the Kevco pan for 2 years and probably 200 passes at 6800 with a standard pump and I have had no issues so far. I just upgraded my fuel system and i will probably go up to 7000 rpm. Mine is 3.79 stroke 394 ci.
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
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05/01/14 12:35 AM
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I have been running the Kevco pan for 2 years and probably 200 passes at 6800 with a standard pump and I have had no issues so far. I just upgraded my fuel system and i will probably go up to 7000 rpm. Mine is 3.79 stroke 394 ci.
How much oil do you run in the pan? in the filter?
I have thought about keeping the kevko, running a standard volume pump again, and seeing what happens when I hit 7000rpm on a regular basis on nitrous...But I am worried at the same time about what could happen
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: mshred]
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05/01/14 09:12 AM
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I run mine with 6-6.5 quarts.
67 Barracuda street car, 408, e85, 1.38 60', 6.44 @105.9 in the 1/8 mile, 10.19 @130.5 in the 1/4...so far....
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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05/01/14 09:28 PM
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Milodon 8 qt pan.
Custom headers? Or TTI?
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: FlyFish]
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05/01/14 09:30 PM
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I run mine with 6-6.5 quarts.
I have been told that with filter and pan a kevko can hold 6 quarts
Really though, what is "enough" is the question?
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: mshred]
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05/01/14 10:28 PM
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I have been running the Kevco pan for 2 years and probably 200 passes at 6800 with a standard pump and I have had no issues so far. I just upgraded my fuel system and i will probably go up to 7000 rpm. Mine is 3.79 stroke 394 ci.
How much oil do you run in the pan? in the filter?
I have thought about keeping the kevko, running a standard volume pump again, and seeing what happens when I hit 7000rpm on a regular basis on nitrous...But I am worried at the same time about what could happen
I am running 5 1/2 right now. I will probably run 6 if I up the RPM's.
1.33 60 ft,6.21 at 110.59 in the 1/8, pump gas small block,2950lbs,drag radials,mufflers and driven to track ...
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: Crizila]
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05/02/14 04:23 AM
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Only way you'll ever pump the pan dry is if it's pumped into the heads! At any rpm, this is the only way that can happen.
Too much oil will get pulled up by the crank and airate the oil, super heat the oil around the crank, and eventually starve the pump with cavitation.
You really have to pour a pan and check them for how much they'll hold under the baffling, then add the proper amount back for the oil galleys and filter. Try pouring a 7Qt pan and see how much is actually held in the sump...you'll be amazed!!
Brian Hafliger
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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05/02/14 11:07 AM
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Only way you'll ever pump the pan dry is if it's pumped into the heads! At any rpm, this is the only way that can happen.
Too much oil will get pulled up by the crank and airate the oil, super heat the oil around the crank, and eventually starve the pump with cavitation.
You really have to pour a pan and check them for how much they'll hold under the baffling, then add the proper amount back for the oil galleys and filter. Try pouring a 7Qt pan and see how much is actually held in the sump...you'll be amazed!!
This is what I did with my 416.
Took the measurement from the bottom of the crank throws. Transfered this to my pan, filled the pan to the line and measured how much.
8 Litre and one litre for the rest. 
This was with a Milodon pan.
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Re: Milodon SB 8 quart pan vs. 7 quart lowpro pan?
[Re: Brian Hafliger]
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05/02/14 09:13 PM
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Only way you'll ever pump the pan dry is if it's pumped into the heads! At any rpm, this is the only way that can happen.
Too much oil will get pulled up by the crank and airate the oil, super heat the oil around the crank, and eventually starve the pump with cavitation.
You really have to pour a pan and check them for how much they'll hold under the baffling, then add the proper amount back for the oil galleys and filter. Try pouring a 7Qt pan and see how much is actually held in the sump...you'll be amazed!!
I did that, including the engine angle as it sits in the car. With 7 qts, I was well under the tray and pan baffle. This was with a static engine and no oil in the filter, so running, the oil level clearance to the crank would be greater. I had no way of measuring that as I don't know how much a running small block holds above the crank. I won't even go in to the windage tray issue except that Milodon sells one to work with that 8 qt pan - and I am a believer in them. So, where is the oil going with all those giant wheelies I see on this sight???? Pump has to be sucking air for some period of time. 
Fastest 300
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