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Re: Ditching the Points [Re: roe] #1608645
04/18/14 01:07 PM
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the hei conversion as I understand it, yes eliminates the ecu.
no idea about the coil, all of mine are mounted horizontal.

the petronix replaces points. never seen it tried on an electronic distributer before.
I would imagine you could do it and remove all the electronic stuff as well.
it only needs 2 wires to work, both go to the coil or 12 volts and the coil.

Re: Ditching the Points [Re: Copper Dart] #1608646
04/18/14 05:29 PM
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Mancini sells an Electronic Ignition kit to convert my '67 383. Have 2 listed, one is a Prestolite, What is the difference? Mopar Performance or Presto? Street/Stock Cruiser not a Race Car.
Also I need the steel fuel line from the Stock fuel pump/fuel filter to the #1407 Eddy carb, anyone know the part number? The carb inlet is on the right side rearward corner. I have a rubber fuel line running from the filter to the carb and I dont like it.
Help if you can, Thanks




The Mopar Performance kit drops rite in, keeps things stock..
On E-Bay is a brand new Mopar Electronic kit for a 383, but note it is the earlier version which is significantly better than the later ones..
This one has:
1. Distributor has Mallory internals which has adjustable advance settings
2. Orange ECU box is USA made not the Chinese junker

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Electronic...948&vxp=mtr

Just my $0.05...

Re: Ditching the Points [Re: Sinitro] #1608647
04/18/14 05:45 PM
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Mancini sells an Electronic Ignition kit to convert my '67 383. Have 2 listed, one is a Prestolite, What is the difference? Mopar Performance or Presto? Street/Stock Cruiser not a Race Car.
Also I need the steel fuel line from the Stock fuel pump/fuel filter to the #1407 Eddy carb, anyone know the part number? The carb inlet is on the right side rearward corner. I have a rubber fuel line running from the filter to the carb and I dont like it.
Help if you can, Thanks




The Mopar Performance kit drops rite in, keeps things stock..
On E-Bay is a brand new Mopar Electronic kit for a 383, but note it is the earlier version which is significantly better than the later ones..
This one has:
1. Distributor has Mallory internals which has adjustable advance settings
2. Orange ECU box is USA made not the Chinese junker

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mopar-Electronic...948&vxp=mtr

Just my $0.05...




Nice sales pitch

Re: Ditching the Points [Re: mopowers] #1608648
04/24/14 12:50 AM
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Package arrived from Mancini this afternoon. I guess I'll take the wife out to dinner.........in the Satellite of course just as soon as I install the electronic ignition conversion kit. Thanks honey!
I know theres only two wires to connect but an instruction sheet would have been nice
Anyone know of the "correct" way to wire the kit? It did come with a new ballast resistor too.

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Re: Ditching the Points [Re: Copper Dart] #1608649
04/24/14 01:13 AM
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I believe you run the 2 Pertronix wires to the respective coil primary (+) and (-) terminals and you use the ballast with your OE coil and dont use the ballast if going with a Pertronix coil either a (I) (II) or (III) Pertronix coil to match the respective (I) (II) (III) Pertronix kit that you have. Wired that way if using a ballast the voltage to the Pertronix would be reduced & not sure if that is a problem or not & if so it instead requires the P hot wire be run to switched 12V to bypass a ballast if a ballast is used. What are the ohms of your current coil/ballast and what is the ohms of the P ballast. I would call P & give them your coil ohms & see if they want you to use their ballast. EDIT found my ignitor I kit for a toyouta that I bought at a swap meet for $2. I see that with a ballast that you do run full 12V to the P

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Re: Ditching the Points [Re: RapidRobert] #1608650
04/24/14 01:28 AM
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Robert, my wife purchased the Mopar kit from Mancini as a surprise ( sort of) birthday gift. I need to know the Mopar Performance kit wiring diagram, instructions didn't come with the kit. I know you probably have installed them before.
Thanks, pros and cons of mounting ideas welcome too.
I may have the diagram in one of my old Chilton manuals in the garage, I'll try to find it the weekend.

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Re: Ditching the Points [Re: Copper Dart] #1608651
04/24/14 01:37 AM
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Is the diagram on the far right in the pic gonna ans your Q's. If not holler back


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Re: Ditching the Points [Re: RapidRobert] #1608652
04/24/14 10:58 AM
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copper- here ya go!
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/elec/3.html

also- Vans Auto has the "stock fuel line to Carter carb"
www.vansauto.com


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Re: Ditching the Points [Re: chrisnben] #1608653
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http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/elec/3.html


In that diagram do NOT run the yellow wire that goes to the "ign" terminal on the starter relay T'd over to the upstream side of the ballast like it shows in the pic. that is an error. You run the "ign2" terminal (which is the ballast bypass during cranking brown wire circuit) on the ignition switch to the upstream side of the ballast. On the P system when I pull the trigger on the Pertronix III it'll be my first one. Reportedly there might be holes in the plate drilled off center and or the countersunk holes not drilled deep enough in the plate. Caveats: do not leave the ign on with it not running for an extended period of time. No solid core wires. do not remove the green tape. Use the plastic feeler gauge. The dist needs to have minimal radial play in the bushings. I would talk to one of their techs on what coil/ballast ohm combo they'd recommend for your app (street dd or racing)


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