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Suspension overhaul?? #1607891 04/15/14 04:57 PM 04/15/14 04:57 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	I'm getting ready to gather parts to do the entire supsension on my Bee. It has stock rear springs and front hardware. Aftermarket disk brakes. I will be doing a lot of street driving and probably a bit of racing, as well. What did you all do for a master kit for your car? Where did you order from? Did you go rubber or poly? Or rubber on the LCA and poly on the uppers? Torsion bars? Did you find a place to buy it all at once? Thanks! 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607892 04/15/14 05:05 PM 04/15/14 05:05 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,023 Oregon A AndyF I Win
AndyF I Win A Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 31,023 Oregon	The guys at Firm Feel can take care of what you need. The only thing I'll run on a street car is HD replacement bushings. I've tried most everything over the years and have found that the factory stuff works the best for street driving. Get a good brand like Moog and you should be good to go for a long time. www.firmfeel.com is the place

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: AndyF] #1607893 04/15/14 05:41 PM 04/15/14 05:41 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Thank you. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607894 04/15/14 05:53 PM 04/15/14 05:53 PM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Definitely stay with quality OE type rubber (no poly) on the LCA's live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: RapidRobert] #1607895 04/15/14 07:26 PM 04/15/14 07:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	That's the most common sentiment when it comes to LCA bushings. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607896 04/15/14 10:08 PM 04/15/14 10:08 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,072 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,072 Niles , Ohio	Get the Moog problem solver upper bushings.Install opposite of instructions and get more caster.Thats if you run radial front tires.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: therocks] #1607897 04/15/14 11:38 PM 04/15/14 11:38 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az F frank top fuel
frank top fuel F Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 2,138 tucson az	Quote: Get the Moog problem solver upper bushings.Install opposite of instructions and get more caster.Thats if you run radial front tires.Rocky What do you mean opposite of instructions? Left side on right side; turn around--front on back? I thought the problem solver bushings were designed to give more caster--why swap them??

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: frank] #1607898 04/16/14 12:18 AM 04/16/14 12:18 AM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I run the Firm Feel "kit" and like it. Mine is all poly but agree the rubber LCA bushings are a benefit as they help position the LCA correctly. I had to add adjustable strut rods with my poly LCA bushings to get everything tight and in position for a correct and steady alignment.

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: frank] #1607899 04/16/14 08:43 AM 04/16/14 08:43 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Quote: Quote: Get the Moog problem solver upper bushings.Install opposite of instructions and get more caster.Thats if you run radial front tires.Rocky What do you mean opposite of instructions? Left side on right side; turn around--front on back? I thought the problem solver bushings were designed to give more caster--why swap them?? Curious on this as well. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607900 04/16/14 09:31 AM 04/16/14 09:31 AM
Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,724 Florida BDW master
BDW master Joined: May 2005 Posts: 4,724 Florida	Like this

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: BDW] #1607901 04/16/14 09:34 AM 04/16/14 09:34 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Okay, but why reverse the instructions? 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607902 04/16/14 11:00 AM 04/16/14 11:00 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Cuz the Moog intent of those is to move the UCA out laterally for more positive camber to compensate for a sagging or damaged subframe. We put the front one in as designed and put the arrow to the inside on the rearward one on each dr/pass side so that the front is moved outward as originally designed but we move the rear leg in which in effect moves the UBJ rearward (in a slight arc) for more positive caster. live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: RapidRobert] #1607903 04/16/14 11:08 AM 04/16/14 11:08 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Aha. That makes sense. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607904 04/16/14 11:45 AM 04/16/14 11:45 AM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 138 WI. U.S.A. D DusTed74 member
DusTed74 member D Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 138 WI. U.S.A.	I used all Moog parts. All rubber no poly. I bought all of it from Summit. They had the best prices. Ted

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: DusTed74] #1607905 04/16/14 11:49 AM 04/16/14 11:49 AM
Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska R RapidRobert Circle Track
RapidRobert Circle Track R Joined: Nov 2003 Posts: 36,040 Lincoln Nebraska	Moog used to be a standby for quality but I hear they too are now being outsourced overseas & the quality is way less. Please tell me it ain't so live every 24 hour block of time like it's your last day on earth

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: RapidRobert] #1607906 04/16/14 01:56 PM 04/16/14 01:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Quote: Moog used to be a standby for quality but I hear they too are now being outsourced overseas & the quality is way less. Please tell me it ain't so That's what I always understood, as well. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607907 04/16/14 03:35 PM 04/16/14 03:35 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 138 WI. U.S.A. D DusTed74 member
DusTed74 member D Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 138 WI. U.S.A.	Time will tell. If it ever stops snowing here I'll be able to drive it again. Ted

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607908 04/16/14 05:17 PM 04/16/14 05:17 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 - R RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer
RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	Dodge Boy... Used(PST)urethane in a PLYMOUTH.. Been in there for 20+ years... I like it...

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: RSNOMO] #1607909 04/16/14 07:12 PM 04/16/14 07:12 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Quote: Dodge Boy... Used(PST)urethane in a PLYMOUTH.. Been in there for 20+ years... I like it... But I want to drive mine. How do they do when it is in motion? Bazinga... 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: OhioMopar] #1607910 04/16/14 07:27 PM 04/16/14 07:27 PM
Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 - R RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer
RSNOMO Moparts Torchbearer R Joined: Apr 2012 Posts: 18,880 -	Quote: How do they do when it is in motion After 20,000 miles... Just fine... T'ain't no 'poodle'...

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: RSNOMO] #1607911 04/17/14 01:21 AM 04/17/14 01:21 AM
Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,855 Central Florida larrymopar360 Stud Muffin
larrymopar360 Stud Muffin Joined: Jan 2011 Posts: 15,855 Central Florida	I did all Poly on my '89 Diplomat police car. It is definetly firm but not harsh and it's driven almost daily. Most came from firmfeel, but I got energy suspension for the sway bar end link bushings. As far as Moog; I had heard they may have gone to some over seas sources so I emailed them. They responded they do have some countries of origin other than the US, and if I emailed the part number/numbers they would advise. I emailed my part numbers (upper/lower ball joints and tie rods and ends), and they responded they were US made. That was for my Diplomat. Who knows on other stuff, but if you go to the "Contact Us" on their website and email them the part number/numbers you will actually get an answer! Facts are stubborn things.

Re: Suspension overhaul?? [Re: larrymopar360] #1607912 04/17/14 09:53 AM 04/17/14 09:53 AM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio OhioMopar OP master
OhioMopar OP master Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 8,779 Mt.Gilead, Ohio	Very good to know. Thanks. 1969 Dart GTS 340 1969 Super Bee X9 N-96 1969 Coronet R/T X9 N-96 2015 Dodge Dart GT 2019 Ram 2500 Big Horn. Looking for the original block for my Bee. The last 4 are 7449

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