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Convertors what stall #1607765 04/15/14 11:01 AM 04/15/14 11:01 AM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt OP master
1967dartgt OP master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	If you have a motor that makes peak torque at 5600 and peak hp at 7400 where would you want the stall spend of the convertor? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: 1967dartgt] #1607766 04/15/14 11:32 AM 04/15/14 11:32 AM
Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,645 Stuttgart, Arkansas rickseeman master
rickseeman master Joined: Jan 2012 Posts: 2,645 Stuttgart, Arkansas	If you are talking about a drag racing application, 1000 below your shift point would work. 2011 Drag Pak Challenger

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: rickseeman] #1607767 04/15/14 12:27 PM 04/15/14 12:27 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	I know where there is a converter sitting on the shelf that I would love to see you try.

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: 1967dartgt] #1607768 04/15/14 12:39 PM 04/15/14 12:39 PM
Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI MR_P_BODY Master
MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	On yours I would say 5800 but call the conv companies.. also makes a difference on what trans

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1607769 04/15/14 01:46 PM 04/15/14 01:46 PM
Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI D dizuster master
dizuster master D Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 3,635 Oakland, MI	There is more to life then "stall speed" and "slip"... Call someone that has a clue and have one built for your combo... (I use PTC, but Lenny at Ultimate seems to be a crowd favorite around here too). I have had four different stator's/pumps behind my motor that had the same stall speed (or close), but all ran VERY different. Just as an example... I shift my motor at 5800. The tight converter that is in there now flashes to about 4800 or so on 11psi (and that's about what it drops to on the shift). When I had the first converter in there, it would stall to 5400 (shifting at 5800) so it was on the converter the ENTIRE run. That being said, the loose converter was about .2 faster then the tight converter that's in there now, and that was with 26% slip on the big end! So like I said... what the converter is doing in the middle of the track is just as (if not more) important then the stall/slip numbers.

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: 408strokerdart] #1607770 04/15/14 02:05 PM 04/15/14 02:05 PM
Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa 1967dartgt OP master
1967dartgt OP master Joined: Oct 2007 Posts: 3,978 Hilltown Pa	This is for a 904 trans and 95% race car. I think you would shift it at 7800-8000 so you think it would want a 6800 convertor. Lenny will be getting the call just want some opinions and see what every one else is doing. Its for a friends car and we were talking about it yesterday. Brian what is your stall in your glide? Brett Miller W9 cnc'd heads STR Chassis fabraction

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: 1967dartgt] #1607771 04/15/14 02:53 PM 04/15/14 02:53 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw... gregsdart master
gregsdart master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 9,996 Frostbitefalls MN (Rocky&Bullw...	Lenny got my business and is in the process of building me another one right now. In the past with this motor, I had runabout 5600 stall against a torque peak of 5300, and 7,000 hp peak. I then tried it looser and wound up way loose, at about 6500. The car actually picked up, but so did the rpm at the stripe. Loose on the bottom means slip increase up top too. With the extra gear ratio of a Torqueflite a loose converter really helps consistency if you are on the edge to start with. It lowers the initial hit, and spreads the torque multiplication a bit more than a tighter converter. Plus if you spin a touch, a loose converter starts to lock up and actually pulls a touch harder rather than one close to the torque peak, which is already pulling as hard as it can. I was told the new converter ought to have 5 to 6 percent slip, which is based on my gear ratios, car weight. I asked for the new one to be set up for best performance, which I think allows it to be as tight as it can be for my application. 8..603 156 mph best, 2905 lbs 549, indy 572-13, alky

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: 1967dartgt] #1607772 04/15/14 05:47 PM 04/15/14 05:47 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West 4 408strokerdart master
408strokerdart master 4 Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 3,456 Out West	Quote: This is for a 904 trans and 95% race car. I think you would shift it at 7800-8000 so you think it would want a 6800 convertor. Lenny will be getting the call just want some opinions and see what every one else is doing. Its for a friends car and we were talking about it yesterday. Brian what is your stall in your glide? Mine stalls right at 6100.....wish I could try it just a tick higher.

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1607773 04/16/14 10:32 AM 04/16/14 10:32 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 176 NC USA U ultimatelenny member
ultimatelenny member U Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 176 NC USA	Quote: On yours I would say 5800 but call the conv companies.. also makes a difference on what trans X2 Lenny Croteau www.ultimateconverter.com Phone 704-892-6837 Fax 704-892-6880

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: ultimatelenny] #1607774 04/16/14 10:59 AM 04/16/14 10:59 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Lenny, get off the computer and to work on my converter.

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: justinp61] #1607775 04/17/14 10:17 AM 04/17/14 10:17 AM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 176 NC USA U ultimatelenny member
ultimatelenny member U Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 176 NC USA	Quote: Lenny, get off the computer and to work on my converter. Hey Justin, boy sneak on the board for a minute and get nabbed!!! LOL Starting on your piece this morning, should be ready to ship Monday. Lenny Croteau www.ultimateconverter.com Phone 704-892-6837 Fax 704-892-6880

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: ultimatelenny] #1607776 04/17/14 10:24 AM 04/17/14 10:24 AM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Quote: Quote: Lenny, get off the computer and to work on my converter. Hey Justin, boy sneak on the board for a minute and get nabbed!!! LOL Starting on your piece this morning, should be ready to ship Monday. It's all good, looking forward to running it.

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: justinp61] #1607777 04/17/14 01:05 PM 04/17/14 01:05 PM
Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 176 NC USA U ultimatelenny member
ultimatelenny member U Joined: Oct 2006 Posts: 176 NC USA	Quote: Quote: Quote: Lenny, get off the computer and to work on my converter. Hey Justin, boy sneak on the board for a minute and get nabbed!!! LOL Starting on your piece this morning, should be ready to ship Monday. It's all good, looking forward to running it. Sorry Justin, here I am thinking it is Friday, if all goes well you should leave tomorrow. Lenny Croteau www.ultimateconverter.com Phone 704-892-6837 Fax 704-892-6880

Re: Convertors what stall [Re: ultimatelenny] #1607778 04/17/14 01:27 PM 04/17/14 01:27 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,684 W. Kentucky	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Lenny, get off the computer and to work on my converter. Hey Justin, boy sneak on the board for a minute and get nabbed!!! LOL Starting on your piece this morning, should be ready to ship Monday. It's all good, looking forward to running it. Sorry Justin, here I am thinking it is Friday, if all goes well you should leave tomorrow.

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