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triple purpose build questions #1605865
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70s dodge tradesman vans

Is it easy to put a big block in one?

Anyone know what they weigh?

I want to build a van to take to drag week that can run 11.50s, tow my car, and have a bed in it with shag carpet

Any and all opinions welcome


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Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605866
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70s dodge tradesman vans

Is it easy to put a big block in one?

Anyone know what they weigh?

I want to build a van to take to drag week that can run 11.50s, tow my car, and have a bed in it with shag carpet

Any and all opinions welcome




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Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605867
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I bought a bare/gutting one in 76... that was about
3400#... 109wb... small block that I fixed up like
your talking

Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1605868
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with the shag carpet add 359lbs,then mabey another 300 for big girls your going to attract.the big girls luvum some shag carpet.damhik.

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Ok, the guy that lets me know what needs to be done to stuff a low block in a van gets a picture of a girl tied up in the van that weighs under 150

Anyone that donates a stroker small block can tie her up


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Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605871
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Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605872
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Wow, lets keep it clean guys. I like the idea of the build, but please spare us the comments about girls tied up in the back...

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I use to have a van similar to that. It was called a "camper special" but it was a *cough *cough cheby. Small block, tow rig, with a bed and fridge in the back. Couldn't run 11.50's though. That would be really doing something.

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Wallace says 500hp to get 4000 lbs 11.50s. I think it can be done and still be mild mannered.


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Just find a 76-78 with a big block, the 400 and 440's were options. An old motorhome would also provide you with the right brackets and mounts I think

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Just find a 76-78 with a big block, the 400 and 440's were options. An old motorhome would also provide you with the right brackets and mounts I think




I found a nice 79 for low dough. If i could find a nice van with a BB i would be it insted


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Re: triple purpose build questions [Re: sixpackgut] #1605877
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Wallace says 500hp to get 4000 lbs 11.50s. I think it can be done and still be mild mannered.




I'm thinking thats gotta be RWHP, which means you're gonna have to make 600 or more..... Mild Mannered???

Making a van go 11.50's is one thing. That same van also being able to tow a 5000 lbs?? You are talking about two completely opposite ends of the performance sprectrum. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it done, but my guess is it would cover one hell of a budget!


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Just sold an oil pan and eng. brkts last jan. at the WPC swapmeet here in Det. I think I got about $30 total on that stuff.

You might want to consider a 4" stroker smallblock and automatic w/OD.


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Wallace says 500hp to get 4000 lbs 11.50s. I think it can be done and still be mild mannered.




I'm thinking thats gotta be RWHP, which means you're gonna have to make 600 or more..... Mild Mannered???

Making a van go 11.50's is one thing. That same van also being able to tow a 5000 lbs?? You are talking about two completely opposite ends of the performance sprectrum. Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see it done, but my guess is it would cover one hell of a budget!





Wallace says it takes 607 hp for my 3150 lb car to run 10.08 and its mild mannered, 15" vacuum at idle. I drive it all over

I have a 470 sitting on the floor. If it fits it ships


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If you want a real dual purpose cruiser/screamer, how about a stroker motor with a supercharger? A 550 hp build will idle like a kitten and pull a big load without going crazy with cam, etc.


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Ray,
Seriously, the easiest way is a mild low comp engine, then a 175hp hit of nitrous on a big shot plate.
Going this route will allow for a tight converter and mild gear, which will be essential to towing.

This guy runs the local brackets here in Phoenix, runs low 11's with a 440.

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Ray,
Seriously, the easiest way is a mild low comp engine, then a 175hp hit of nitrous on a big shot plate.
Going this route will allow for a tight converter and mild gear, which will be essential to towing.

This guy runs the local brackets here in Phoenix, runs low 11's with a 440.




Well, there's your evidence that an RB block can go into a Tradesman. If it fits, a low-deck should be a little easier.


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Build a stroker with stock port window aluminum heads and I think you can do it for sure. Look at BSB67s '67 Charger, he's well in the 11s with a stock torque converter, 3.23s, and manifolds as I recall and his car is HEAVY. Talk to him


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Ray,
Seriously, the easiest way is a mild low comp engine, then a 175hp hit of nitrous on a big shot plate.
Going this route will allow for a tight converter and mild gear, which will be essential to towing.

This guy runs the local brackets here in Phoenix, runs low 11's with a 440.




That is the what i was thinking also. I am getting excited thinking about this project.


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