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Caltract spring problem #1604844 04/08/14 04:26 PM 04/08/14 04:26 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL J josh426 OP member
josh426 OP member J Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL	1964 Plymouth with rear wheels hanging free, looks like left rear is hanging lower than the right rear. Has anybody else had this experience?

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: josh426] #1604845 04/08/14 05:05 PM 04/08/14 05:05 PM
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bonefish master B Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 7,274 s.w.fl	i dont know about hanging,but my 69 B-body with CT monosprings the driverside is a little higher.i finally gave up trying to figer it out and just got used to it.it rides and launches great.

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: josh426] #1604846 04/08/14 06:26 PM 04/08/14 06:26 PM
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B G Racing master Joined: Mar 2006 Posts: 9,910 Eighty Four, PA	Quote: 1964 Plymouth with rear wheels hanging free, looks like left rear is hanging lower than the right rear. Has anybody else had this experience? They always will,the right is a higher spring rate for rotational loading. [IMG]http://i430.photobucket.com/albums/qq21/ajcasini/max_zpsdppwd9km.jpg[/IMG]

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: B G Racing] #1604847 04/08/14 07:26 PM 04/08/14 07:26 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Quote: 1964 Plymouth with rear wheels hanging free, looks like left rear is hanging lower than the right rear. Has anybody else had this experience? They always will,the right is a higher spring rate for rotational loading. He said Caltracs and there`s no left and right that I know of........... 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: Thumperdart] #1604848 04/08/14 08:06 PM 04/08/14 08:06 PM
Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 861 lancaster,california johnnycuda super stock
johnnycuda super stock Joined: Mar 2008 Posts: 861 lancaster,california	There are no left or right spring, can be installed on either side. 1970 'Cuda,Lime Light,499 Indy S/R's 10.70's @125,street driven ALOT! 1966 Barracuda 360,now a 5spd,Hemi Orange,Hot Rod Air, New daily driver-2003 Ram 2500 Cummins 5.9 '69 Valiant 2-dr, sleeper! New project---1938 Dodge truck, plan is a 360 with a A500, AC, Calvert rear susp., rack and pinion front with coils.

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: Thumperdart] #1604849 04/08/14 08:07 PM 04/08/14 08:07 PM
Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA S StealthWedge67 master
StealthWedge67 master S Joined: Jul 2006 Posts: 4,319 Puyallup, WA	No left and right with split mono's, as far as I know. any stagger in spring rate is supposed to be achieved via the bars. Call Calvert, they'll get it figured out! LemonWedge - Street heavy / Strip ready - 11.07 @ 120

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: StealthWedge67] #1604850 04/08/14 08:38 PM 04/08/14 08:38 PM
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taxidermy man member T Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 49 mn.	Sitting on all fours, my b-body sits higher on the drivers side with calvert monos, maybe 3/4"

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: josh426] #1604851 04/08/14 08:45 PM 04/08/14 08:45 PM
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64hemi330sedan super stock Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,134 OHIO THE HEART OF IT ALL	I would switch them side to side and see if its the spring or your car. mine are even on my car. I have seen cars that were not tied together very well push the spring box up after a bunch of years racing them.

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: taxidermy man] #1604852 04/08/14 09:13 PM 04/08/14 09:13 PM
Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion T Thumperdart I Live Here
Thumperdart I Live Here T Joined: Jul 2004 Posts: 19,318 State of confusion	Quote: Sitting on all fours, my b-body sits higher on the drivers side with calvert monos, maybe 3/4" If u had multi-leafs then yes it can sit goofy because of the differend spring rates............. 72 Dart 470 n/a BB stroker street car `THUMPER`...Check me out on FB Dominic Thumper for videos and lots of carb pics......760-900-3895.....

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: Thumperdart] #1604853 04/08/14 09:40 PM 04/08/14 09:40 PM
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JAKE68 pro stock J Joined: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,495 Shelby mi.	Guys if this is a new install then the car has the preload in it because it was set up with a conventional spring. So the car was leveled with the torsion bars. So first time you let it down a lot of times it looks like a train reck. I would set it up on scales because you can make torsion bar adjustments and do your preload adjustments you can make the car level and have preload set. JAKES AUTOMOTIVE

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: JAKE68] #1604854 04/08/14 09:46 PM 04/08/14 09:46 PM
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Sport440 master S Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,591 Canton, Ohio	Jake your correct , but in this case they are just Free hanging. Further, Josh426 states that it Looks like the left side is hanging lower, doesnt say how much. Might not be a issue at all. How much lower Josh? 1/4",1/2" probably fine. 1",3" probably a problem. Last edited by Sport440; 04/08/14 09:52 PM.

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: Sport440] #1604855 04/08/14 10:14 PM 04/08/14 10:14 PM
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MR_P_BODY Master Joined: Jun 2003 Posts: 52,972 Romeo MI	See if its hanging on the shocks... they can be off (the lower mounts)

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: josh426] #1604856 04/08/14 10:27 PM 04/08/14 10:27 PM
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josh426 OP member J Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL	rear is hanging free left is lower called caltrac said it could be rear part of spring no shocks

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: josh426] #1604857 04/09/14 09:52 AM 04/09/14 09:52 AM
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DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	Is this with the bars on or the bars off? Did you measure the rear segments? I would worry more about how it sits when you put the car on the ground. But the bars will change ride height when you tighten or loosen.

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: josh426] #1604858 04/09/14 10:49 AM 04/09/14 10:49 AM
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mopar dave master Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 8,045 Mt Morris Michigan	had the same problem when I installed mine. you cant just crank the u bolts down with a finish torque on them. they need to be torqued slowly and evenly. I torqued mine in a crosshatch pattern 20ftlb at a time and each side til I got to the finish torque which I think was 80#. at that point when I set the car down it was level. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aIxaesJ190U http://youtu.be/lCZAaN7fFLg

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: mopar dave] #1604859 04/09/14 12:40 PM 04/09/14 12:40 PM
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josh426 OP member J Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL	car is on a lift no shocks no bars i wonder if right rear spring is weak from use takeing out springs to see

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: mopar dave] #1604860 04/09/14 02:41 PM 04/09/14 02:41 PM
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taxidermy man member T Joined: Sep 2013 Posts: 49 mn.	Quote: had the same problem when I installed mine. you cant just crank the u bolts down with a finish torque on them. they need to be torqued slowly and evenly. I torqued mine in a crosshatch pattern 20ftlb at a time and each side til I got to the finish torque which I think was 80#. at that point when I set the car down it was level. I thought I did that on mine, maybe I'll re-check that.

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: taxidermy man] #1604861 04/09/14 07:35 PM 04/09/14 07:35 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL J josh426 OP member
josh426 OP member J Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL	the left side is 3/4 lower

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: josh426] #1604862 04/09/14 07:39 PM 04/09/14 07:39 PM
Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,686 W. Kentucky justinp61 I Live Here
justinp61 I Live Here Joined: Oct 2003 Posts: 11,686 W. Kentucky	Quote: 1964 Plymouth with rear wheels hanging free, looks like left rear is hanging lower than the right rear. Has anybody else had this experience? What does it look like sitting on the ground?

Re: Caltract spring problem [Re: justinp61] #1604863 04/09/14 07:50 PM 04/09/14 07:50 PM
Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL J josh426 OP member
josh426 OP member J Joined: Jan 2014 Posts: 7 FL	more weight on right side not a good way to look at it some one should try to jack up rear put stands under body let rear hang no shocks or bar preload

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