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Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) #1601763
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I am making progress on my 65 valiant, i put a new firewall and i decide to lay a nice Amerlock 400 coat, you guys think i shoud go to bare matel, like using some type of paint striper perhaps do a little sandblasting? or just or just break the paint and smoth it out with sand paper?

This is just a drag race car not a show car, the epoxy iam using may not be the best option out there, but is a free option...

Thanks, Gilbert.

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Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1601764
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If the base paint is solid and is adhereing well then just sand it untill you get the edges feathered and then prime with a epoxy primer and re scuff making sure there are no paint edges where it had been feathered, then shoot it with what ever paint you decide using.


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Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1601765
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Looks like a fair bit of bare metal.. I'd hit it with
a etching primer before doing anything

Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1601766
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Do a web search to find the product data sheet. Says it's self-priming over most surfaces and adheres to tight rust.

See for yourself, I'd be tempted to just shoot it.

That brand of paint is high quality, in general. We use it in industrial settings.

R.

Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1601767
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Thanks for the help..

I'll throw on some self etching primer, then throw on some of this coats! ...i still need to do more metal sanding.....

Gilbert.

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READ THE DIRECTIONS.

If the manufacturer says something, why would you disagree?

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Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: SB449VALIANT] #1601769
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Quote:

Thanks for the help..

I'll throw on some self etching primer, then throw on some of this coats! ...i still need to do more metal sanding.....

Gilbert.




Yeah once you get your metal ready put some self etch
on it then use your high build primer

Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: dogdays] #1601770
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Do a web search to find the product data sheet. Says it's self-priming over most surfaces and adheres to tight rust.

See for yourself, I'd be tempted to just shoot it.

That brand of paint is high quality, in general. We use it in industrial settings.

R.




You're right on that, and it really seeps into the pores of the metal,btw The epoxy smell is a knockout......

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Do a web search to find the product data sheet. Says it's self-priming over most surfaces and adheres to tight rust.

See for yourself, I'd be tempted to just shoot it.

That brand of paint is high quality, in general. We use it in industrial settings.

R.




You're right on that, and it really seeps into the pores of the metal,btw The epoxy smell is a knockout......





If it is a self etch just shoot that

Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1601772
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Epoxy primer is the better option, IMO. It seals the metal from moisture, and is the ultimate sealer coat to block the existing paint from reacting with the new paint.


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Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: DusterDave] #1601773
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Epoxy primer is the better option, IMO. It seals the metal from moisture, and is the ultimate sealer coat to block the existing paint from reacting with the new paint.




I always use a sealer after all the work is done
(bondo and primer) before spraying the color

Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: MR_P_BODY] #1601774
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Read the P sheet. Many epoxies do NOT want any type of etching primer used under them.

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If you want it to look nice strip it. It'll take forever to feather out the edges on that oddball surface.
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Read the sheet.
I was just painting some epoxy over bare metal, thought an etching primer would help. The epoxy adhered to the primer more than the primer to the metal...peeled off in big flakes...


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Re: Firewall epoxy ( Amerlock 400) [Re: OUTLAWD] #1601777
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Offshore????

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I use a similar high solids epoxy primer product called Dupont Corlar 2.1. It's been used to protect steel on offshore oil rigs in the North Sea. If it can protect steel in that harsh environment, think how it could protect the steel on a car. I used it on the entire bottom of my Jeep body.


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Thanks for the help..

I'll throw on some self etching primer, then throw on some of this coats! ...i still need to do more metal sanding....
Gilbert.



Where did you buy this product?

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I live in s. Texas, there is this place across the border called comex.com owner asked me if i was going to use the epoxy for floor painting! I said wth?? Yeah righ, afaik is good stuff.

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Now if i can only find a "Not so Expensive mix of" soda and aluminum oxide will like to use one of these babies....lol

iam a lazy guy so a rather do it the right way.....

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friendly option...

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