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Is it ok to want a Z28? #1599603 03/28/14 12:50 PM 03/28/14 12:50 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross OP super stock
67autocross OP super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkyWhVBSKU&list=PLA97180860447EE6A A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: 67autocross] #1599604 03/28/14 12:53 PM 03/28/14 12:53 PM
Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours Supercuda About to go away
Supercuda About to go away Joined: Sep 2007 Posts: 14,889 up yours	Only if you have a mullet. Now if it was a Firebird... They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: Supercuda] #1599605 03/28/14 01:37 PM 03/28/14 01:37 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross OP super stock
67autocross OP super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	I had a mullet in the 80's does that count? A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: 67autocross] #1599606 03/28/14 01:41 PM 03/28/14 01:41 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,666 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,666 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Nope, you have to have one currently. I had long hair in the 70s and 80s, but no pony tail. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: 67autocross] #1599607 03/28/14 01:50 PM 03/28/14 01:50 PM
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VS29H0B pro stock V Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 1,593 USA	Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkyWhVBSKU&list=PLA97180860447EE6A I hope you say this in jest. Why anyone would drop $75K on this car is beyond me, when anyone could buy any number of other cars for less money that would outperform a new Z28 - i.e. a used C6 Z06? Like the women I have dated --- Always looking for a better deal ....

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: amxautox] #1599608 03/28/14 02:17 PM 03/28/14 02:17 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross OP super stock
67autocross OP super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Quote: Nope, you have to have one currently. I had long hair in the 70s and 80s, but no pony tail. I still have my cassette collection does that cut it? A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: 67autocross] #1599609 03/28/14 02:20 PM 03/28/14 02:20 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,666 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,666 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Quote: Quote: Nope, you have to have one currently. I had long hair in the 70s and 80s, but no pony tail. I still have my cassette collection does that cut it? Well, I'll have to think on that. I had 8 tracks. I didn't get cassettes until the '80s. So, yes, cassettes are fine. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: VS29H0B] #1599610 03/28/14 02:27 PM 03/28/14 02:27 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross OP super stock
67autocross OP super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Quote: Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkyWhVBSKU&list=PLA97180860447EE6A I hope you say this in jest. Why anyone would drop $75K on this car is beyond me, when anyone could buy any number of other cars for less money that would outperform a new Z28 - i.e. a used C6 Z06? I don't think a used ZO6 is faster than this Z28 Camaro, I never came across a track test where a ZO6 is faster than a GTR. Plus I like a car with a back seat so I have a place to throw candy bar wrappers and empty chocolate milk containers when I'm driving. A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: amxautox] #1599611 03/28/14 02:30 PM 03/28/14 02:30 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross OP super stock
67autocross OP super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Nope, you have to have one currently. I had long hair in the 70s and 80s, but no pony tail. I still have my cassette collection does that cut it? Well, I'll have to think on that. I had 8 tracks. I didn't get cassettes until the '80s. So, yes, cassettes are fine. Next new car I buy I think I'll drive it to the local car audio place and get them to install a cassette deck...that should be good for a few laughs....the Z28 would be perfect as it is a radio delete car... A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: 67autocross] #1599612 03/28/14 02:36 PM 03/28/14 02:36 PM
Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,666 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ... amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot. Joined: May 2003 Posts: 96,666 On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: Nope, you have to have one currently. I had long hair in the 70s and 80s, but no pony tail. I still have my cassette collection does that cut it? Well, I'll have to think on that. I had 8 tracks. I didn't get cassettes until the '80s. So, yes, cassettes are fine. Next new car I buy I think I'll drive it to the local car audio place and get them to install a cassette deck...that should be good for a few laughs....the Z28 would be perfect as it is a radio delete car... Once I asked about a cd and cassette player combo. I guess they don't make those anymore. Tom "Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing." -Henry David Thoreau Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths author unknown

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: amxautox] #1599613 03/28/14 02:50 PM 03/28/14 02:50 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,163 Mesa, Arizona D dart4forte I Live Here
dart4forte I Live Here D Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 16,163 Mesa, Arizona	I'm actually partial to the 70 1/2 Z28

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: dart4forte] #1599614 03/28/14 04:06 PM 03/28/14 04:06 PM
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brads70 super stock Joined: Jan 2009 Posts: 813 Ontario,Canada	It said the Z-28 beat the GTR on the track? The times looked pretty darn close to me? Impressive machinery just the same. How they they compare cost wise? I cringe and the cost of a brake job on that carbon fiber set up? To bad Mopar can't/won't step up to the plate?

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: brads70] #1599615 03/28/14 05:54 PM 03/28/14 05:54 PM
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Tomswheels enthusiast Joined: Oct 2013 Posts: 380 Escondido CA USA	If you look at the Z28 from a track car perspective, it is a beast, nothing NEW will run faster around the Ring for $75K. 99% of the $75K pro touring cars wouldn't beat it around the ring either. Certainly one could modify a late model Z06 to be faster for less money, but that Z06 beats every single new car made in a $$ vs track time battle. Now I'm a Mopar guy who bought a new Mustang because I don't have 75K, and for $33K total I have a slightly modified car that can do 95% of what the Z28 can do, but as a guy who likes the track, I would jump on that Z28 if it ever depreciates to where I could afford it...

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: Tomswheels] #1599616 03/28/14 06:10 PM 03/28/14 06:10 PM
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72Swinger master Joined: Feb 2011 Posts: 4,302 Nebraska	Its basically a ZL1 with a 2010 Zo6 engine with some aero tweeks. Not saying it isnt a fantastic car, but I think my Dart will hold its own against one in every catagory except creature comfort. Mopar to the bone!!!

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: brads70] #1599617 03/28/14 06:32 PM 03/28/14 06:32 PM
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RylisPro top fuel Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 2,432 NorCal	The Z28 is a little bit faster than the GTR but I bet it was due to the difference in tires. The GTR has 255/285 run flats while the Z28 runs 305 Trofeo R tires in a square setup. They are both pigs at 3800 lbs. I have the same trans and final drive as the Z28 though, I am going in the right direction 73 `Cuda Instagram: @rylispro YouTube: RylisPro www.rylispro.com 925-214-9192

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: 67autocross] #1599618 03/28/14 08:55 PM 03/28/14 08:55 PM
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Pale_Roader Swears too much Joined: Jan 2005 Posts: 4,862 the frozen wastes...	Quote: Quote: Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkyWhVBSKU&list=PLA97180860447EE6A I hope you say this in jest. Why anyone would drop $75K on this car is beyond me, when anyone could buy any number of other cars for less money that would outperform a new Z28 - i.e. a used C6 Z06? I don't think a used ZO6 is faster than this Z28 Camaro, I never came across a track test where a ZO6 is faster than a GTR. Plus I like a car with a back seat so I have a place to throw candy bar wrappers and empty chocolate milk containers when I'm driving. I cant see how a 505HP 427 Vette wouldn't be faster in every way than a two-ton Camaro with a bunch ov tricks on it. No matter what you do to that Camaro, it will never be a true race car. If its even close, then put the same tires on the Vette and see what happens. I'd love an LS7 Vette.

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: Pale_Roader] #1599619 03/28/14 09:31 PM 03/28/14 09:31 PM
Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada 67autocross OP super stock
67autocross OP super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkyWhVBSKU&list=PLA97180860447EE6A I hope you say this in jest. Why anyone would drop $75K on this car is beyond me, when anyone could buy any number of other cars for less money that would outperform a new Z28 - i.e. a used C6 Z06? I don't think a used ZO6 is faster than this Z28 Camaro, I never came across a track test where a ZO6 is faster than a GTR. Plus I like a car with a back seat so I have a place to throw candy bar wrappers and empty chocolate milk containers when I'm driving. I cant see how a 505HP 427 Vette wouldn't be faster in every way than a two-ton Camaro with a bunch ov tricks on it. No matter what you do to that Camaro, it will never be a true race car. If its even close, then put the same tires on the Vette and see what happens. I'd love an LS7 Vette. Yea the tires are the key to the Z28, I know GM tested a 2012 ZO6 at Nurburgring on race tires and it was a bit faster than the Z28, but the test time for the Z28 was also done on a colder almost wet day. A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: Pale_Roader] #1599620 03/28/14 09:48 PM 03/28/14 09:48 PM
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PHJ426 master P Joined: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,456 Fly Over States	Quote: Quote: Quote: Quote: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PqkyWhVBSKU&list=PLA97180860447EE6A I hope you say this in jest. Why anyone would drop $75K on this car is beyond me, when anyone could buy any number of other cars for less money that would outperform a new Z28 - i.e. a used C6 Z06? I don't think a used ZO6 is faster than this Z28 Camaro, I never came across a track test where a ZO6 is faster than a GTR. Plus I like a car with a back seat so I have a place to throw candy bar wrappers and empty chocolate milk containers when I'm driving. I cant see how a 505HP 427 Vette wouldn't be faster in every way than a two-ton Camaro with a bunch ov tricks on it. No matter what you do to that Camaro, it will never be a true race car. If its even close, then put the same tires on the Vette and see what happens. I'd love an LS7 Vette. The Nissan GTR with AWD is even heavier than a 2014 Z/28. That car only has a V6........... I want to see what Ford comes out with after the next generation Mustang is introduced. What will a newer version of a Boss Mustang be capable of?

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: PHJ426] #1599621 03/28/14 10:25 PM 03/28/14 10:25 PM
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67autocross OP super stock Joined: Nov 2006 Posts: 1,074 Manitoba Canada	Z 28 vs Boss 302 vs Big Red http://www.hotrod.com/feature_stories/1406_2014_camaro_z28_forces/ A new iron curtain drawn across the 49th parallel

Re: Is it ok to want a Z28? [Re: 67autocross] #1599622 03/29/14 03:08 AM 03/29/14 03:08 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,921 A collage of whims topside Too Many Posts
topside Too Many Posts Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 20,921 A collage of whims	It's OK to want whatever floats your boat. That said, when I look at the new Z28 or the last Boss Mustang (2013?) and see the price...I think I'd personally rather build a 2nd-Gen Z28 or '69 Mustang FB or an E-body 'Cuda to be similarly capable. I'd bet that for less money I'd have something way cooler, better looking, and I enjoy the build experience. That said, there's the instant gratification that a big checkbook provides if you mainly want to be on track in a few days. But even then, I'd be looking at a vintage racecar.

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