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E body rear spring hanger mount #1596665
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Does anyone or can anyone post a picture of a 1970 E body rear spring hanger. The shackle and frame mount. I cant find what it is supposed to look like stock. I have offset shackles on mine but the front spring eye bracket is stock. I dont know what has been done till I see a stock rear shackle and mount. Thanks

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: joes68340s] #1596666
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Great vendor and good reference pictures?
http://arengineering.com/home-page/spring-hangers/

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: brads70] #1596667
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Really need a photo of stock location hanger.

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I believe E bodies had splayed rear leafs, the front eyes were closer together than the rear hangers. Kinda like /\, but it's been over 20 years since I had an E body.


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yes I need to see what stock hanger was used. I have an offset on mine And I dont know if that is correct.

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: joes68340s] #1596670
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Click here:

http://chucker54.stores.yahoo.net/rearshackles.html

offset rear shackles are not factory, the straight ones are factory. Offset shackles only move things in a little.

What is your intention with this project?

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: PHJ426] #1596671
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My intention is to try to find out what and why the offset shackle was installed for. the front spring eye bracket is not offset so I dont know why there is a rear offset. Does the stock shackle attach through the frame. Im trying to get the photo of the rear suspension on the car as seen from below. Not parts in pictures on websites. Thanks

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Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: joes68340s] #1596672
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Yes the factory rear shackles attach through frame and theyare straight. Unless you can contact the previous owner you may never find out why there is an offset rear shackle and a standard front hanger on your car. Sometimes its unexplainable what some of these cars have gone through.

Try posting some pictures of the rear suspension and maybe we can guess what is going on but from your description I don't have any clue.

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Ive installed a few offset spring kits on A bodys but Ive never seen this before. It looks like there is some offset on the stock frame mounts as one side protrudes out more than the other so even though a straight shackle is used the mount is offset because of the angle the rear frame rails run. Unfortunatly the previous owner passed away and the wife isnt noligable about specifics of the car.

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Taking some pictures and posting them will probably get you more input.

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: PHJ426] #1596675
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are the leafs parallel or pigeon-toed? If they are straight, i bet $5 that you have a b-body axle housing in there- as to fit wider tires. Very common racer trick to use S-shackles and switch the housing. The front hanger remains stock. I should add that most also then put Super stock springs and longer front hangers in- still straight though, not offset. Pics would help.


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Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: chrisnben] #1596676
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Thanks I will look and measure. I didn't think of that. I know it was drag raced in the late 70s. It had once been converted to a 4 spd and then switched back to the stock column shift auto.

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: joes68340s] #1596677
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Quote:

My intention is to try to find out what and why the offset shackle was installed for. the front spring eye bracket is not offset so I dont know why there is a rear offset.




You may have to take a lot of measurements to try and figure this out exactly. Since it has been a drag racer in its previous life, I'd most likely say it was to increase tire clearance. As stated earlier, the E body springs are splayed to be wider at the rear. This type of install can reduce the available space for tires by a half an inch on the rear segment. Putting offset shackles in without a corresponding offset hanger could put rear segment of the spring more parallel to the front an allow a skosh more tire. However, this has also likely put the springs into a potential binding situation, unless the spring mounting pad location hole was also opened up a bit.

The splayed mounting arrangement does tend to reduce roll induced oversteer and stabilize the handling some. To restore this would require the offset front hanger while still allowing for wide tires. However, to do this with the stock E body housing will also require moving the spring mounting pad inboard the corresponding amount.

Another alternative is to use the offset bracket/shackles and drop in a B body housing which will fall right onto the springs without moving spring pads.

With the offset shackles, their mounting point into the frame horn should not have changed. The shackles are bent to create the offset. The mounting point does not change. Returning to straight shackles should allow them to bolt right back into the stock location.

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: joes68340s] #1596678
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I haven't read the entire post but I moved my springs in .080 using the rear offset MP E body spring hangers and the A body front spring hangers. I have the OEM hangers and can measure things for ya.
I beleive (IIRC) that the A body offset front hanger is straight, but the bolts are offcenter/offset
http://www.moparts.org/Tech/Archive/rearsusp/12.html

see the clearance for the studs head?

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Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: UCUDANT] #1596679
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Thanks for the replys. I have not been out to look it over again but I know the front mount is a stock style mount.

Re: E body rear spring hanger mount [Re: joes68340s] #1596680
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Those springs will be noticeably twisted if the front and rear hangers are mismatched. I once saw a Cuda someone tried it on. I think the spring pads were stock at the car I saw







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