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Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? #159634
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I am restoring a 67 Coronet RT and have the original leaf springs. The car actually sits ok, but I want to put new stuff on the car. These are the original with six leafs on one side and seven on the other. My question: Is it cheaper it to restore these or just buy new ones. Thanks.


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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #159635
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New ones aren't going to look correct and they aren't going to last 40 years. I would clean and paint what you have. I think you can buy new, correct spring clamps for them.

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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #159636
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Mike, heres my , Cost of kit (new inter linners, brackets ect) to do both springs is about $100. Then there's your time to take apart, clean, paint then assemble is significant. They sound like Heavy Duty springs so they are probably worth restoring but for $400 your could get a set of HD springs that are nice (not the Mopar Performance Mexico junk) that look factory correct for the most part. There is a vendor who sells nice springs I can't remeber the name...some one else can chime in. good luck!

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Mike, heres my , Cost of kit (new inter linners, brackets ect) to do both springs is about $100. Then there's your time to take apart, clean, paint then assemble is significant. They sound like Heavy Duty springs so they are probably worth restoring but for $400 your could get a set of HD springs that are nice (not the Mopar Performance Mexico junk) that look factory correct for the most part. There is a vendor who sells nice springs I can't remeber the name...some one else can chime in. good luck!




Just remembered vendors name..."ESPO". For the most part I have heard positive feedback on their springs. I'm sure others will provide comments.

Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: LYNCHROAD69.5] #159638
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I have ESPOs on my 66 Coronet. Nice and firm with 6 leafs on each side.

Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: LYNCHROAD69.5] #159639
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Just remembered vendors name..."ESPO".



Unless they've changed their product significantly since I bought a set of their springs in 2000, ESPO's springs do NOT look like OEM parts. For a true restoration, I'd keep the original springs described above and replace the liners, clamps, etc.

Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Lefty] #159640
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Here's some not so good pics of the ESPO springs.




Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Lefty] #159641
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Who sells the kit to restore them ? 62 dodge dart

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Thanks Guys for the responses. Seems it is a split decision..


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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Lefty] #159643
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Ohhhh Lefty...those look like competition tires on your hot rod...please share some more

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New ones aren't going to look correct and they aren't going to last 40 years. I would clean and paint what you have. I think you can buy new, correct spring clamps for them.

Sheldon





If you are going for a factory original look the factory original springs are the way to go IMO.

Six springs per side vs six/seven as commented above would be enough for me to decide right there?


A "driver" that looks nice is a different situation obviously...


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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: CrAzYMoPaRGuY] #159645
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New ones aren't going to look correct and they aren't going to last 40 years. I would clean and paint what you have. I think you can buy new, correct spring clamps for them.

Sheldon





If you are going for a factory original look the factory original springs are the way to go IMO.

Six springs per side vs six/seven as commented above would be enough for me to decide right there?









Yeah me too. I bought a set of Mopar SS springs that gave my car a 4" lift! So I'm now faced with the same decision and despite the hassle, I'm just gonna redo my orig Hemi springs.



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New ones aren't going to look correct and they aren't going to last 40 years. I would clean and paint what you have. I think you can buy new, correct spring clamps for them.

Sheldon





If you are going for a factory original look the factory original springs are the way to go IMO.

Six springs per side vs six/seven as commented above would be enough for me to decide right there?









Yeah me too. I bought a set of Mopar SS springs that gave my car a 4" lift! So I'm now faced with the same decision and despite the hassle, I'm just gonna redo my orig Hemi springs.



Dave




Is part of re-doing them include re-arching the leafs? or replacing the leafs? I mean sure anyone can paint and clean them (as mentioned above) but they are still 40+/- years old leafs.


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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: ThermoQuad] #159647
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Ohhhh Lefty...those look like competition tires on your hot rod...please share some more




Whoops busted! I'd share more but the restoration folks would have me lynched in a heartbeat. I think i'll just mosey back over to the general section where I fit in better.

You can see more here, it's a work in progress -

http://members.cruzio.com/~dane/

Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Lefty] #159648
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If they are rusted and pitted you will spend a ton of time on them to get them to look rite. I spent 30-40 hrs to get a set de-rusted/unpitted and now I have a great lookin set of worn out springs. I think Eaton make the most correct lookin springs (bare steel )or ESPO (lower price but painted )but if your gonna DIY, be prepared to spend some time on them and mark each leaf when you disasemble them. Good luck

Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #159649
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Is part of re-doing them include re-arching the leafs? or replacing the leafs? I mean sure anyone can paint and clean them (as mentioned above) but they are still 40+/- years old leafs.




Nope; car sat right with them in place despite them being 38 years old, so I'm just going to strip them, refinish them and bolt them back in using new bushings.

My 'Cuda still has the factory springs (and rad hoses, wires, etc. etc.) and I have no intention of replacing them either. "If it ain't broke...." comes to mind.


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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: LYNCHROAD69.5] #159650
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Mike, heres my , Cost of kit (new inter linners, brackets ect) to do both springs is about $100. Then there's your time to take apart, clean, paint then assemble is significant. They sound like Heavy Duty springs so they are probably worth restoring but for $400 your could get a set of HD springs that are nice (not the Mopar Performance Mexico junk) that look factory correct for the most part. There is a vendor who sells nice springs I can't remeber the name...some one else can chime in. good luck!




Just remembered vendors name..."ESPO". For the most part I have heard positive feedback on their springs. I'm sure others will provide comments.




My bad...Eaton Detroit Spring was the vendor I heard mostly positive feedback on.

Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Mopar_Mike] #159651
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If you're not looking for the absolute concourse brand new look and they don't sag, I'd rebuild them.. I rebuilt the ones on my '68 Hemi Charger R/T. Yes, there's cost associated with the new bushing, rebuild kit and possibly getting a tool or two. But, the satisfaction of knowing you did it is nice. I had fun with my rebuild.

Sure, there was some slight roughness due to natural weathering, but all-n-all, they looked fine once wire-wheel cleaned. I sprayed a coat of Krylon Matte clear for protection. I decided to leave mine natural since that's the way they were originally.

Cheers,

PS: yes Dave. I have the proper u-bolts now that look dead-on accurate.

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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: LYNCHROAD69.5] #159652
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Mike, heres my , Cost of kit (new inter linners, brackets ect) to do both springs is about $100. Then there's your time to take apart, clean, paint then assemble is significant. They sound like Heavy Duty springs so they are probably worth restoring but for $400 your could get a set of HD springs that are nice (not the Mopar Performance Mexico junk) that look factory correct for the most part. There is a vendor who sells nice springs I can't remeber the name...some one else can chime in. good luck!




Just remembered vendors name..."ESPO". For the most part I have heard positive feedback on their springs. I'm sure others will provide comments.




My bad...Eaton Detroit Spring was the vendor I heard mostly positive feedback on.




I read a lot of positive about Eaton which is why I bought them for my car.

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Re: Restore leaf springs or buy new ones? [Re: Shakey] #159653
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My car needs an extra 2" of height and so I was gonna get new ones. Would Eaton have correct 6 /7 for a 70 GTX? I dont want ones that are gonna jack it up 4". thnx, John







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