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Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? #159612
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My '70 Super Bee tail light bezels need to be rechromed... they aren't very blistered.... does this metal rechrome ok? What is the going rate on a couple of parts like these?

ALSO... one of the bezels has 3 studs broken off. Other than JB Weld, is there a better way of fabbing/repairing the studs?

Essentially, the question is: Should I jack with it or just spend the $325 on a repop set from BE&A?

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #159613
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It is a real project to redo pot metal. So it is costly.
If it was me i would get the repops. there is a place in Tenn that does real good work "advance plating" Pauls is also good maybe the best.
One thing is even though it may not have much blistering ad-fter striped it may have lots that need filled.
The real problem is when the filling and sanding is done it will lose some detail unless the place is realy good at it.
I could go on
but there is some good reading here.
http://www.advancedplating.com/process/process.htm

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: 340SIX] #159614
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Thanks kevin, thats what I was afraid of. Thankfully there is eBay and be&a. Anyone ever notice how similar those two names are?

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #159615
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The way i see it{and a good friend owns the chrome shop no longer does pot metal} but i know 100% what it takes to plate stuff.
Street car = redone parts at a local non big money shop
or repop parts.
Show car = big $$ plater that will take the time and expence not to lose the detail of the org part fixing it right

And with the way things are going now BE&A parts are getting to be better and better and he will take back anything you don't think is good enough in quality.

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: 340SIX] #159616
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Advanced Plating has been good to me. I have had stuff done at Pauls and they are quite expensive and the parts always look good but the plating ends up being very,very thick. Look for the very best cores you can start with! My JC.

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #159617
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My '70 Super Bee tail light bezels need to be rechromed... they aren't very blistered.... does this metal rechrome ok? What is the going rate on a couple of parts like these?

ALSO... one of the bezels has 3 studs broken off. Other than JB Weld, is there a better way of fabbing/repairing the studs?

Essentially, the question is: Should I jack with it or just spend the $325 on a repop set from BE&A?







Save yourself the grief,.....buy a set from Mike Ross, at BEA.......pot metal repair is $$$$$$$ just for surface work, nevermind stud repair, plus a lot of platers usually ask you one question when dealing with pot, "do you have spares?".......cause in the process of de-electroplating the old plating off to prep the peice, sometimes the peice "dissolves" in the tank!

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Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: DAYCLONA] #159618
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My trim is badly pitted.
I was lucky enough to come across NOS trim.
Add the difficulty factor in finding any decent C body trim--let alone B stchuff.
I watched these pieces for two weeks and nobody else bid on them and did not meet her reserve.
She E mailed me her offer and I bought them up.
Cost? 100.00.
That is probably still cheaper than getting re-finished,IMO>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...W:IT&ih=004
Other NOS potmetal trim I scored,the front fender "eyebrows"


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Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: 68Cbarge] #159619
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My trim is badly pitted.
I was lucky enough to come across NOS trim.
Add the difficulty factor in finding any decent C body trim--let alone B stchuff.
I watched these pieces for two weeks and nobody else bid on them and did not meet her reserve.
She E mailed me her offer and I bought them up.
Cost? 100.00.
That is probably still cheaper than getting re-finished,IMO>
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayIS...W:IT&ih=004




Good Score..

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #159620
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+1 for Advanced Plating ,seen their amazing work in person

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #159621
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Another possibility is to find perfect originals that just need replating, no repairs.

Fixing pot metal parts is expensive, and you don't necessarily get back a part that could be termed "perfect", it would depend on who did the repairs.
I've seen good parts ruined by "repairs".


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Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: DAYCLONA] #159622
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My '70 Super Bee tail light bezels need to be rechromed... they aren't very blistered.... does this metal rechrome ok? What is the going rate on a couple of parts like these?

ALSO... one of the bezels has 3 studs broken off. Other than JB Weld, is there a better way of fabbing/repairing the studs?

Essentially, the question is: Should I jack with it or just spend the $325 on a repop set from BE&A?







Save yourself the grief,.....buy a set from Mike Ross, at BEA.......pot metal repair is $$$$$$$ just for surface work, nevermind stud repair, plus a lot of platers usually ask you one question when dealing with pot, "do you have spares?".......cause in the process of de-electroplating the old plating off to prep the peice, sometimes the peice "dissolves" in the tank!




after spending a lot of money on pot metal repair with mediocre results I strongly suggest BE&A or whoever has them

Joey

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #159623
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Quote:

My '70 Super Bee tail light bezels need to be rechromed... they aren't very blistered.... does this metal rechrome ok? What is the going rate on a couple of parts like these?

ALSO... one of the bezels has 3 studs broken off. Other than JB Weld, is there a better way of fabbing/repairing the studs?

Essentially, the question is: Should I jack with it or just spend the $325 on a repop set from BE&A?




Your better off just buying the repop set from
BEA...

I had two very nice 70 Coronet bezels rechromed
at Paul's chrome plating in 2004 and they cost
$225.00 A PIECE!!! that was almost 5 years ago
They came out beautiful...but if the repops had
been available I would have bought those...

having been there and done that..I would buy
the repops...

Best of luck to you!

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: OLD318] #159624
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I do my potmetal plating with the help of the local plater. I have the plater strip the part for me then take it home and eithrt A) sand the part until all of the pits are sanded out.....think of it as block sanding primer, you sand the high spots down....in this case you are actually "shrinking" the part because you are taking metal away until you get to the bottom of the pit. OR B) drill out the pits, take the piece back to the plater and have it copper plated, bring the piece back home and solder all of the drilled holes up, sand, buff and take it back to the plater to have it triple plated. The big expense in the plating process is labor, if you don't mind doing alot of that and your plater will work with you, you can cut a BIG chunk off the price of your plating. A couple other benefits of doing the prep work yourself is you probably don't have the industrial sized sanders etc that the platers have, those can ruin a piece quick if they have some production guy sanding down your intricate piece. Also when you bring in a part that's ready to plate the turn around time is extremly fast.

Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: 6pkaar] #159625
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Steve..
There's a guy here in Houston that does potmetal/pewter and actually can fix the items... But, as with any potmetal, you run the risk of more bubbling if it has started... Usually the bubbling is a function of the casting and whether or not there were air pockets.......

I'll try and find their website.. They did my check moulding and original door handle for the hemi Charger. I'm taking my wing window frames to them as well............


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Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: hemi68charger] #159626
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They did my check moulding and original door handle for the hemi Charger. I'm taking my wing window frames to them as well............









Hey Troy!....just curious what you paid to have your check moulding and door handles done?.....I paid $300 to have my checks done(then the repros come out for $200!).....and my handles done for $250,.....my A pillars, just the pot metal pcs,I assembled the assys after plating, cost $600 pr,.....and all the pcs were in excellent condition, only needing to be freshened up chrome wise............

I would think in the 3-4 days this post has gone on, BEA parts could have shipped the OP a set of new benzels, and he could have posted by now how nice they are!.....and how much $$$$ and aggrevation he saved?

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They did my check moulding and original door handle for the hemi Charger. I'm taking my wing window frames to them as well............









Hey Troy!....just curious what you paid to have your check moulding and door handles done?.....I paid $300 to have my checks done(then the repros come out for $200!).....and my handles done for $250,.....my A pillars, just the pot metal pcs,I assembled the assys after plating, cost $600 pr,.....and all the pcs were in excellent condition, only needing to be freshened up chrome wise............

I would think in the 3-4 days this post has gone on, BEA parts could have shipped the OP a set of new benzels, and he could have posted by now how nice they are!.....and how much $$$$ and aggrevation he saved?




Mike, I believe my original door handles were about $120/140 for the pair and shot, I think about the same if not cheaper for the check mouldings. I believe I was quote about $100 for the individual a-pillar door frames...

Troy


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Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: PAINT IT BLACK] #159628
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I talked to mike ross about the parts. I have a big list of stuff I need, so I am going to wait a while to order them. For my purposes, I don't see the value in jacking with the old ones. Thanks for all the input.

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I talked to mike ross about the parts. I have a big list of stuff I need, so I am going to wait a while to order them. For my purposes, I don't see the value in jacking with the old ones. Thanks for all the input.




Mike has everything you need?

Mike G. and Steve..
Here's the place I took my stuff..

http://www.superiorchrome.com/


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Re: Is rechroming pot metal difficult/hit or miss? [Re: hemi68charger] #159630
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Bea has a lot of the remaining items I need. I just placed a $1300 order with Dante for the stuff bea doesn't have. Other than that it's just engine parts, aftermarket electronic parts, and a lot of blood sweat & tears to get her finished. Thanks for the referral. I'll probably send my window channels to them.

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.my A pillars, just the pot metal pcs,I assembled the assys after plating, cost $600 pr,.....and all the pcs were in excellent condition,






I believe I was quote about $100 for the individual a-pillar door frames...

Troy






Well,...Troy if you can get the A pillar pot metal frame done for a $100 each,.....don't wait!

I paid $200 for each front A pillar frame, and $100 for each side vent window base, hinge pivots, and locking handles.......total $600, and I did the disassembly and reassembly,.....not a bad price for all the individual pot metal pcs, but just kills ya to spend that much on an A pillar,.....but they are often skipped in a resto, because of price, and complexity of dis/re-assembly by some people,......and a bad set of pitted A frames can kill the look of even the nicest resto

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