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So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... #1594305
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.. what are our options for an overdrive manual transmission? And, on a more personal note; where can I obtain the drive shaft to gearbox yoke that Keisler didn't send me for my TKO600? Thank you in advance.

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: TiMopar] #1594306
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The TKO slip yoke is the same as the Ford C-6 automatic.

For parts and conversion kits try Hurst.

http://www.hurst-drivelines.com/


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Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: TiMopar] #1594307
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.. what are our options for an overdrive manual transmission? And, on a more personal note; where can I obtain the drive shaft to gearbox yoke that Keisler didn't send me for my TKO600? Thank you in advance.



Passon Performance.

Their site; http://www.passonperformance.com

Long thread on here about their 5 speed; https://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/show...;vc=1&nt=19

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: moparfan53] #1594308
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Im with you TiMopar. I am finally getting around to installing the TKO 600 in my Cuda which I bought a few years ago, called them a few weeks ago with a technical question and found them to be DOA. I also am out the drive shaft. I am also nervous to install this trans, cut up the floor to make it fit and it is not supported if there are issues or need parts. I am also running the hydraulic throw out bearing. Passions 5 speed wont be ready till Fall at the earliest.

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: Dr Dave] #1594309
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Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: Azzkikrcuda] #1594310
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the tkos are manufactured by tremec. keisler was just a retailer so why be worried about the trans having issues?

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #1594311
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not so much the trans but the accessories like the hydraulic T/O bearing

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: Dr Dave] #1594312
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hurst drivelines Support pulls damn near a perfect VACUUM, IE: thinks sucks as Kiester's DID and still does
Try Liberty Gear, they bought the rights to the KIESTER "packages" and are trying to sort throught the mess left behind,
By the way I called tremec on a relatively new (less than 1k miles)leaky 5 spd and they Referred me to Liberty for the fix, yes it was way beyond its warranty period but still less than 1K miles and due to Google research, it's not an isolated problem ??? HMMM, Nuff said I think


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Good to know that Liberty Gear has taken over. Suppose they can supply the driveshaft which I never received from Keisler (at a $$ of course)?

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: Dr Dave] #1594314
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In one of the posts his web site said some outside source was going to take care of the drive shafts. Well, just let me say they are in my town, and as soon as I can I'll get the skinny on them.

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: 71birdJ68] #1594315
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Can't have a local drive shaft place fab something? S/F...Ken M

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: TiMopar] #1594316
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Last time i went by Keisler i was told they are trying to get backing to start back up now how much success they have remains to be seen.. Since i only live five miles from the business park they are located in i went by to see first hand.


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Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: 67coronetman] #1594317
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That would be great if you could keep tabs on them and let us know if they get back into operation.

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: Dr Dave] #1594318
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That would be great if you could keep tabs on them and let us know if they get back into operation.




lol, search around here for Keisler threads


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Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: EchoSixMike] #1594319
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Can't have a local drive shaft place fab something? S/F...Ken M




what he said... The drive shaft is the last thing I'd be worried about. Driveshafts can be made easy and not too expensive. I've had 2 made, brought them the yokes I wanted use and the lenght needed and go back in 2-3 days and bang new drive shaft.


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Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: Mr.Yuck] #1594320
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I saw either Richmond or Liberty has a 6 speed overdrive now and it looks like it would fit better than that tremac (and stronger) for around 4 grand, probably shifts better and faster too. Hard to beleve getting that much for those kits and still go under, bad management I guess.

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: TiMopar] #1594321
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Quote from Keisler E-Mail:

While we wait to see the outcome of the KE Operation Asset Sale, some of you may be seeking to purchase a Keisler transmission kit. In Dec 2013, I sold the Keisler PerfectFit TKO 5-speed and T56 6-speed kit lines to Craig Liberty at Liberty Gear, please contact:

NOTE: Liberty's Gears DID NOT PURCHASE OPEN SALES ORDERS OF KEISLER ENGINEERING, INC.. Please do not ask them for parts or warranty support as they have no obligation for KE Inc orders. They spent nearly several hundred thousand dollars to secure the Keisler PerfectFit TKO & T56 product lines.

Liberty's High Performance Products, Inc.
6390 Pelham Road
Taylor, Michigan 48180
Phone (313) 278-4040
Fax (313) 381-2411
www.libertysgears.com

Tremec ELITE Distributor

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: 451Mopar] #1594322
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Does anyone else here see an EXTREMELY empty niche for a simple aftermarket accessory/install kit (bellhouse, clutch/PP, shifter, hump, whatever) that will let us bolt up JUNKYARD 5 and 6-speeds to old Mopars?

Many people here have done junkyard tranny swaps, using whatever fits, using as many OEM (from whatever make) parts as possible, that are working fine. Some have done it for peanuts.

Why hasn't someone made a kit to use a (common) Mustang T45, or a (common) F-body or Cobra T56, or a Supra trans or whatever... Like, 'This is what i used, here are the numbers and what to look for in yards...' and then 'Hell, how 'bout i just get it all together and sell it as a kit...'

Not everyone can afford a brand new transmission. Not everyone needs one. There are tons ov used 5 and 6-speeds sitting in yards that will easily hold the power ov an average old Mopar. For the heavier (but still cheapo) bigblock guys, there are Viper T56's or i'm sure other 5-speed options.


Someone could make some money here, whether above or below the board.

Re: So, now Keisler has bit the dust..... [Re: Pale_Roader] #1594323
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Does anyone else here see an EXTREMELY empty niche for a simple aftermarket accessory/install kit (bellhouse, clutch/PP, shifter, hump, whatever) that will let us bolt up JUNKYARD 5 and 6-speeds to old Mopars?

Many people here have done junkyard tranny swaps, using whatever fits, using as many OEM (from whatever make) parts as possible, that are working fine. Some have done it for peanuts.

Why hasn't someone made a kit to use a (common) Mustang T45, or a (common) F-body or Cobra T56, or a Supra trans or whatever... Like, 'This is what i used, here are the numbers and what to look for in yards...' and then 'Hell, how 'bout i just get it all together and sell it as a kit...'

Not everyone can afford a brand new transmission. Not everyone needs one. There are tons ov used 5 and 6-speeds sitting in yards that will easily hold the power ov an average old Mopar. For the heavier (but still cheapo) bigblock guys, there are Viper T56's or i'm sure other 5-speed options.


Someone could make some money here, whether above or below the board.




all of those transmissions require cutting of the torsion bar crossmember and floor to fit proper. if you can handle that, chances are you're crafty enough to install said trans without a "kit". kits were aimed at the guys who didn't want to modify their cars or engineer anything themselves. those guys are probably best left to go with passons 5sp.

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Does anyone else here see an EXTREMELY empty niche for a simple aftermarket accessory/install kit (bellhouse, clutch/PP, shifter, hump, whatever) that will let us bolt up JUNKYARD 5 and 6-speeds to old Mopars?

Many people here have done junkyard tranny swaps, using whatever fits, using as many OEM (from whatever make) parts as possible, that are working fine. Some have done it for peanuts.

Why hasn't someone made a kit to use a (common) Mustang T45, or a (common) F-body or Cobra T56, or a Supra trans or whatever... Like, 'This is what i used, here are the numbers and what to look for in yards...' and then 'Hell, how 'bout i just get it all together and sell it as a kit...'

Not everyone can afford a brand new transmission. Not everyone needs one. There are tons ov used 5 and 6-speeds sitting in yards that will easily hold the power ov an average old Mopar. For the heavier (but still cheapo) bigblock guys, there are Viper T56's or i'm sure other 5-speed options.


Someone could make some money here, whether above or below the board.




all of those transmissions require cutting of the torsion bar crossmember and floor to fit proper. if you can handle that, chances are you're crafty enough to install said trans without a "kit". kits were aimed at the guys who didn't want to modify their cars or engineer anything themselves. those guys are probably best left to go with passons 5sp.





I REALLY wish people would quit bringing up that Passon 5-speed. Last i checked (am i wrong?) they're still not available.

My point was, make a kit and let the customer cut his own floor. Sometimes people just dont have the time or means to do all the scrounging or hunting, experimenting in many cases, to do it themselves. Sadly, i'd have to include myself in that dept, as i no longer have the free time or mobility i once had. A 'kit' would sell. Even if it required cutting, which, as we've learned, many ov the Keisler ones ended up doing anyways.

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