Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: n20mstr]
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03/13/14 09:14 PM
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All this is why....this is MOPARTS.,
Is 75.00 really that much to a bunch of grown men???
Josh, do me a favor...KEEP MY $75.00 as a donation, this way you can afford to keep putting on these races. You have given me enough already in memories, and a little prize money here and there, at least paid my fuel and expenses. Are all these guys "professional" racers??? Im just as broke and down on money as anyone else on here.... Give me a damn break,
AND even IF josh pocketed 20 or 30k per race,,,,WHY SHOULDNT HE ??? Its a LOT of time, and energy on his part to make it happen , as im sure any promoter.
You all (guys that are comlaining) should think about what is more important to you,,,,Mopar races or 75.00
Rant over
signed TONY RUSSO
AND Theres the nut huggers to the rescue. Someone takes 10 bucks from someone thats stealing.Go back and hang out on the other web site if you don't like the moparts people.
nuthugger? all I will say is this.... its hard for you or anyone else to understand, because you don't show up to these races...
I stoped drinking the kool aid three years ago when he treated the bracket racer like a deformed human. Then two years ago he was called on a bad debt from a sponsor from the year before rain out. Can you not see a pattern?
If the MODS did their job I would not be hitting the notify MOD button. LOL
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Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: STEFF]
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03/13/14 10:48 PM
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The way I always saw it was, going to a race was a social event and the racing was a bonus. I never looked as though if it rained out I was owed something. Its the risk you take. Win some, loose some.
I think the easiest resolution for Josh is to either institute a no refunds policy from here on out, or look into a rain out insurance policy. The dude from Full Throttle Saloon in Sturgis takes out a rain out insurance policy to cover lost revenue during Sturgis Bike Week.
See you at Norwalk Josh!
Well said.
Casey
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Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: Airwoofer]
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03/14/14 12:34 AM
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You guys want to hit a big payout bracket race? $50,000 to the winner for a Saturday race. That is for the pro tree. $10,000 to the RU and also $10,000 to the footbrake winner.
Come on down and git you some!
http://www.huntsvilledragway.com/images/Wow_Dragstrip_flyer.gif
Can the same car and driver run in both classes?
Why not? If you are serious I will ask around. It is my home track.
I am serious. My car will be ready by the end of this month.
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Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: Eric]
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03/14/14 10:46 AM
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I will just say I have never raced a race where if there was a rain out I was not refunded or given a rain check. I realize it takes a lot of dedication to run a race like this and the weather is a huge factor....but...it's a feast or famine business. You are not the only person with a loss on a rain out. Consider the fuel and other costs the racer incurs traveling to a race like yours. I have said my peace....now I will decide if I will attend or pass. Good luck with your endeavors either way
speaking of travel and cost we drove 8hr one way, I entered two classes, I know a couple of guys that entered 3, so now it's not $75 anymore it's like 1/2 the fuel cost home. I'm not going to see any return cause the new tracks are farther away still and that's ok. What would have made it better is hearing on the PA system "well guys we got rain today and I know you have some money in this so I'm going to raise tomorrow's payout to $2000 to win" (or whatever number). I think most everyone would have been saying boy that Josh is a stand up guy he's taking care of us. the biggest thing is that it would have been over that weekend, done deal like the outcome or not,move on to the next race. but that's all water under the bridge now.
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Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: Eric]
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03/14/14 11:01 AM
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I will just say I have never raced a race where if there was a rain out I was not refunded or given a rain check. I realize it takes a lot of dedication to run a race like this and the weather is a huge factor....but...it's a feast or famine business. You are not the only person with a loss on a rain out. Consider the fuel and other costs the racer incurs traveling to a race like yours. I have said my peace....now I will decide if I will attend or pass. Good luck with your endeavors either way
Well damn it let me get in my too!!!!
The way I look at these "Special events" is this is a track rental ---- Josh does NOT own the track and he has to pay for the weekend if he uses the facility or not. If he owned the track and could accomodate everyone some other weekend I'm sure he would but thats not the case. Look at it this way - you go rent a condo out on the beach for you and your wife/girlfriend to go have a fantastic weekend relaxing out on the beach. Then you wake up Saturday morning and out of no where comes a hurricain and you have to leave and not be able to go back through the weekend - do the people have to give you another weekend for FREE??? They are all booked up for the next 2 years and no weekends available. Do they have to refund your $$$ because of an act of god??? You rented a power washer for a weekend to wash down the house but the thunderstorms came and you could not get outside to safely wash down the house so does that mean you get free rental from Home Depot the next time you have the time to wash down your house??
You pay you take the chance to race (at these special events). I missed the first year the race was held at Indy because I decided not to make the trip because of the forecasted weather. Guess what they raced and I was at home... Then I went and it rained but again so what at least I was not sitting at home. If I was to worry about anything it would be why did I spend $500.00 or more in expenses to go to a race when I thought there would be a chance of a rain out. The entry fee is nothing compared to the expenses. Now I'm sure the payout $$$ could have been handled a different way and maybe next time it will be and if not oh well.
My only beefs are: 1. why is KK only an 1/8 mile race when I am pretty sure they can handle a 1/4 mile race. 2. Why did Bird not share any of his Jack with me
See ya at Norwalk for sure and KK to be determined
Russ
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Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: Super Scamp]
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03/14/14 11:11 AM
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Nope you hit the wrong one. You were talking to yourself instead of airwoofer. What the heck is an airwoofer?
@#$%^&*())(*&^%$#$YUYT%^&*&^%^&* buttons. airwoofer= high speed window fan?
Bill, glad you can still see the buttons.
im not that old yet.
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Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: dennismopar73]
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03/14/14 11:17 AM
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The answer maybe Josh needs to sell MMW to someone who can run it , return it to the event it was known for?
you mean like charlie,so he can cut the purses without notifing anyone?
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Re: Norwalk Monster Mopar. does it exist??????????
[Re: max_maniac]
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03/14/14 11:26 AM
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After reading this thread in it's entirely I can see both sides of the issue some of you have with how these event's occurred and played out,I for one have been to three of these events on the "show" car side and now we are about to start on the racing side of things just purchasing a 67 dedicated strip car,The one thing a outsider takes from these threads is the response from the promoter and I have meet Josh personally at each event and talked with him,I own a small business here in Wis. and in these last 5 years of our nation's economy there has NEVER been a time such as this that the customer is KING,you simply have to appease the customer PERIOD.Guy's we are the CUSTOMER and his first couple responses kinda come off as because a complaint was raised he got entirely defensive in his comments which is HUMAN to do at a first reaction,I have probably watched most of you go down the track and we are lucky to have some of the most powerful and unique cars in the world!!!!!! As a business man I seek to improve my customer relations on a daily basis and I do make mistakes daily but we move forward and learn from it!!!! and I don't know if that's happening with these events,listen it will be the 7th (i think) event he has put on,By now it should be like a iron skillet and it seems it's NOT.These races SHOULD go on like clockwork by now and there not,So Josh you said NO ONE see's what goes on behind closed doors and your right we don't BUT!,It seems you need HELP so ask for HELP and GET help,The Mopar community has MORE than supported you from the start-DON'T LOSE A GOOD THING and don't take for granted that your pit's will be full just because,Most of us have treated you with dignity and respect and all we ask is the SAME.NOW get your ass in gear and get this promoted !!!!!!!! Steve (aka Swifter)
2007 Ram 2500 Cummins
2008 Dodge Nitro
1970 340 Valiant Duster
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