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Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... #1589362
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Any help on who to contact for rebuild kit or preferably new trans and converter.

Thanks in advance.

Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: SeanD] #1589363
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You building it yourself, or trying to find a drop in unit?

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I would like to try to do a rebuild but if I come across one ready to install it would at least buy me some time.

Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: SeanD] #1589365
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They are easy to rebuild. You can get everything you need from John at Cope Racing Transmissions. You will also need a FSM or O/H manual from ATSG for your transmission for torque specifications.
Tools Needed
Snap Ring Pliers
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1/4" Drive Torque Wrench for Valve Body
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Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: SeanD] #1589366
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A and Reds out of Wichita has a very large selection of parts readily available as well as Transtar out of Kansas City (You might have to go through a dealer to get stuff from Transtar). As mentioned, the ATSG book will help get through it. They're fairly simple units. You'll need a set of feeler gauges to check clutch clearances as well as a press to disassemble/assemble the overdrive unit once it's out of the rear case.

Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: SeanD] #1589367
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Any help on who to contact for rebuild kit or preferably new trans and converter.

Thanks in advance.



Just for giggles, what are the symptoms that lead you to a rebuild. There are some problems that are electronic that can be remedied. Just asking.

Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: redraptor] #1589368
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1. ATSG manual should be here this weekend.
2. Thank you the info on where to get parts locally
3. 1-2 shift does not happen unless I let of throttle or stab it quickly.

4. Lots of material in trans pan.

Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: SeanD] #1589369
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Make absolutely sure that you keep everything CLEAN. Valve bodies do not appreciate debris or contamination. You will need the specific tool for the overdrive unit and as mentioned an H-press for the 600lbs spring. A clean parts cleaner is a big plus as well. Also make sure you order both bands front and rear as some kits only come with one. You will also have to order the transducer and solenoid for the valve body separately.


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Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: ChrgrCuda] #1589370
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most overhauls do not need a new rear band it is only applied in rev or manual low so it gets very little use.


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Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: dusturbd340W5] #1589371
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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.


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Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: ChrgrCuda] #1589372
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To be honest, I'd start with replacing the governor pressure solenoid and transducer and changing the fluid and filter and see where that gets you. It sounds more like an electrical issue than a needs a rebuild issue. Debris in the pan is normal wear but everyone's definition of how much is acceptable may be different. Miles since last serviced is going to play a huge part in how much stuff is in the pan as well. If you don't see brass or chunks I'd try the electronics first and see if that helps anything.

Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: cascius] #1589373
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ChrgrCuda, That is the way I am thinking(I am in there anyway just replace it).

cascius, The magnet in the pan has a lot of particles(steel) on it and I am assuming the particles not on the magnet are brass(or gold)

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Re: Have '00 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 auto, needs trans... [Re: ChrgrCuda] #1589374
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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.


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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.




Absolutely true. I was a trans tech at a Dodge dealer for over 20 years. I've literally rebuilt thousands of these things and can count on the fingers of one hand the times a rear band needed to be replaced.


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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.



I wouldn't consider myself a parts changer and would most definitely not take my transmission to a so called "expert" who would try to nickel and dime a true overhaul juxtaposed to a shade tree mechanic rebuild. Just my two


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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.




Absolutely true. I was a trans tech at a Dodge dealer for over 20 years. I've literally rebuilt thousands of these things and can count on the fingers of one hand the times a rear band needed to be replaced.



Perfect example why Chrysler has such a bad reputation regarding service departments. There is a reason why these technicians have rebuilt "thousands" of these transmissions......just replace what is absolutely necessary that will get the customer out of their hair.


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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.




Absolutely true. I was a trans tech at a Dodge dealer for over 20 years. I've literally rebuilt thousands of these things and can count on the fingers of one hand the times a rear band needed to be replaced.



Perfect example why Chrysler has such a bad reputation regarding service departments. There is a reason why these technicians have rebuilt "thousands" of these transmissions......just replace what is absolutely necessary that will get the customer out of their hair.




Ah, wrong. As I've said before people that don't work in the business have no clue how it's done. When the manufacturer is paying for the repair they dictate the terms and process. You can't just replace parts "because you are in there". Replaced parts are sent back to the manufacturer and analyzed. If they are not bad they are charged back to the dealer and maybe even the entire repair. Even if they don't charge the repair back your warranty costs are compared to every other dealer in the nation. If you are high they send in an audit team. If that happens you better hope every little jot and tittle is documented, time stamped and signed for as returned otherwise you are facing a major charge back.

They will take a sample of say maybe 100 tickets over a weeks time. They average what they are charging back then multiply that by however many months or years the audit was for. The dealer can get hit for hundreds of thousands of dollars over very minor infractions.

Secondly most every dealer tech in this country works flat rate. Meaning if they aren't working they aren't getting paid and sometimes when they are working they are working for nothing. Case in point if I overhauled a trans and didn't replace the rear band and it went bad within a year and/or 12,000 miles guess what? I'm, doing it for free and the dealer is eating the parts because the manufacturer isn't paying that claim.

So if you think I would risk any of those scenarios by not replacing the rear band you have no clue.


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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.




Absolutely true. I was a trans tech at a Dodge dealer for over 20 years. I've literally rebuilt thousands of these things and can count on the fingers of one hand the times a rear band needed to be replaced.



Perfect example why Chrysler has such a bad reputation regarding service departments. There is a reason why these technicians have rebuilt "thousands" of these transmissions......just replace what is absolutely necessary that will get the customer out of their hair.




Ah, wrong. As I've said before people that don't work in the business have no clue how it's done. When the manufacturer is paying for the repair they dictate the terms and process. You can't just replace parts "because you are in there". Replaced parts are sent back to the manufacturer and analyzed. If they are not bad they are charged back to the dealer and maybe even the entire repair. Even if they don't charge the repair back your warranty costs are compared to every other dealer in the nation. If you are high they send in an audit team. If that happens you better hope every little jot and tittle is documented, time stamped and signed for as returned otherwise you are facing a major charge back.

They will take a sample of say maybe 100 tickets over a weeks time. They average what they are charging back then multiply that by however many months or years the audit was for. The dealer can get hit for hundreds of thousands of dollars over very minor infractions.

Secondly most every dealer tech in this country works flat rate. Meaning if they aren't working they aren't getting paid and sometimes when they are working they are working for nothing. Case in point if I overhauled a trans and didn't replace the rear band and it went bad within a year and/or 12,000 miles guess what? I'm, doing it for free and the dealer is eating the parts because the manufacturer isn't paying that claim.

So if you think I would risk any of those scenarios by not replacing the rear band you have no clue.



Nice try. I'll give you an "E" for effort. Sugar coat this turd however you like, however the customer is still inconvenienced by having to bring the vehicle back in AGAIN regardless if they have to pay or not. However I thank you for proving my point as to why Chrysler has pretty much the worst reputation in the industry when it comes to service. You just keep on replacing what is ABSOLUTELY is necessary. Another great reason as to why Chrysler has such a [Edited by Moparts - Family Friendly Site - Keep it clean] resale value as customers have experienced just what you described.


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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.




Absolutely true. I was a trans tech at a Dodge dealer for over 20 years. I've literally rebuilt thousands of these things and can count on the fingers of one hand the times a rear band needed to be replaced.



Perfect example why Chrysler has such a bad reputation regarding service departments. There is a reason why these technicians have rebuilt "thousands" of these transmissions......just replace what is absolutely necessary that will get the customer out of their hair.





Well my friend you have no idea who I am or what I do I spent 27 years in the business in the independent side so I never worked for a dealer

I can tell you I am a pro at what I do, I had customers that dealt with me for years and I have units out the that my customers drove for 100's of 1000's miles after I rebuilt there transmission.

I take pride in the work I do and would never charge for or recommend something that I would not do to my own vehicle.

So you can go ahead and change whatever parts you would like, as it is clear you have never done this on a daily basis as I have and are clearly not in the same league as a true tech.


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Perhaps true, however why not replace it while you have it apart? Seems to me if you don't want a half ass overhaul why not do it right the first time? I guess I'm not big into removing and reinstalling transmissions.






If that's what u want to do that's fine but 99.9% of the time replacing the rear band is a waste of money unless you where having problems with rev slipping.

It is not a shifting band it is applied while you are sitting still.

I spent 27 years in the business and have done more of these units than most people have ever seen.
And most of the time the rear bands look like new.

There is a big difference in a true rebuilder that knows what is good and what is bad by looking at the parts and someone that is just a parts changer.




Absolutely true. I was a trans tech at a Dodge dealer for over 20 years. I've literally rebuilt thousands of these things and can count on the fingers of one hand the times a rear band needed to be replaced.



Perfect example why Chrysler has such a bad reputation regarding service departments. There is a reason why these technicians have rebuilt "thousands" of these transmissions......just replace what is absolutely necessary that will get the customer out of their hair.





Well my friend you have no idea who I am or what I do I spent 27 years in the business in the independent side so I never worked for a dealer

I can tell you I am a pro at what I do, I had customers that dealt with me for years and I have units out the that my customers drove for 100's of 1000's miles after I rebuilt there transmission.

I take pride in the work I do and would never charge for or recommend something that I would not do to my own vehicle.

So you can go ahead and change whatever parts you would like, as it is clear you have never done this on a daily basis as I have and are clearly not in the same league as a true tech.



Lol. No offense, but your "League" sounds to be in the Minors(maybe peewee) as I have never heard of you. But you keep on patting yourself on the back as you seem to be insecure.
To the OP. If a $40.00 rear band is going to break the bank for you then go right ahead
and use your original as one of these ass clowns have recommended. Times must
really be tough if these guys can't afford one. I most definitely wouldn't want
to travel a long distance in one of their "overhauled" transmissions without a cell phone....


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