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Help with carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild #1585024
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So, it's looking like i am finally going to get to build my 360 in the near future. I would appreciate some help on carb choice. I have looked at several articles, but am still undecided.

The engine is an LA 360 (74 model) that will be in front of an a-500 trans. it'll be .030 over with KB107 pistons. comp XE262 cam, rebuilt EOM heads with 3 angle valve job, and for now, stock iron 4 bbl intake. From what I have read, I am leaning towards something along the lines of a holley 750 with vacuum secondaries, but want to ask you guys... looking for good performance and torque with good drivability and some symblance of economy. is there such a creature in existance? LOL... what do you guys suggest for my application?


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Charger_440] #1585025
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Holley 4175... or a Q jet..

the 750 is a tad to big IMO and you will need an adapter if your intake is a spreadbore.


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: 340SHORTY] #1585026
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I'll have to look again to verify... I'm sad to say it's been years since i looked at my parts. (it became discouraging, LOL) I think the intake that I have is a square bore. (IE two large oval inlets vs 4 smaller barrel sized inlets


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: 340SHORTY] #1585027
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what Shorty said, a properly setup Q jet or thermoquad. A 750 Holley is too big for your app/no economy. the iron spreadbore 360 OE intake is an excellent piece (tho heavy)


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: RapidRobert] #1585028
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spread-bore: Thermoquad
square-bore: Holley 670 Avenger series.



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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: StealthWedge67] #1585029
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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: west] #1585030
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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-0-4778c/overview/




Overkill

Why do people insist on putting oversized carbs on engines?

A 600 cfm would be best, heck a 500 would be better than a 750 for what he's building.


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Supercuda] #1585031
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625 Street Demon. Calibration is nearly perfect out of the box for that engine, which is not the case with a 3310 750 .

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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Dunnuck Racing] #1585032
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The Street Demon is a very good choice. Go with the plastic center.


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Supercuda] #1585033
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Overkill

Why do people insist on putting oversized carbs on engines?

A 600 cfm would be best, heck a 500 would be better than a 750 for what he's building.





I know I did it when I bought my first carb for my 340. I bought a 750 DP thinking I'll grow into it. And if I'm going to spent big bucks I don't want something too small or won't let my motor make max HP.

Drove the car for too many years with it, never ran that great until I got it up in RPMs.

Then got a 600 and it out runs that 750 on the street and runs so much better on the street.
Got holly 650 sitting on the bench I'm gonna try this summer to see if I can dial it in.

I've been running the 600 now for a long time, got it figured out for all altitudes and temps.

I'd say go for a 600-650 max CFM.

Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Supercuda] #1585034
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Quote:

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http://www.summitracing.com/parts/hly-0-4778c/overview/




Overkill

Why do people insist on putting oversized carbs on engines?

A 600 cfm would be best, heck a 500 would be better than a 750 for what he's building.



The carb listed is a 700 not a 750 and I run it in my setup that is very similar to his build.
The car runs low 12's and has very decent street manners.

Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: west] #1585035
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OP, listen to Dunnuck. He has had the carbs on a dyno with A/F measuring, so I'd say his is the only opinion not based on guesswork.

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Re: Help with carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Charger_440] #1585036
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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Supercuda] #1585037
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A 600 cfm would be best, heck a 500 would be better than a 750 for what he's building.




Actually I have a fairly mild 5.9 in my Duster with exhaust manifolds and with a 625 cfm Edelbrock it would pull a vacuum at WOT. I swapped it out with a 750 Carter AFB and it screams.

A 750 Street Demon would be an excellent choice.




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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: gdonovan] #1585038
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ok, so, this post is going to make me sound like a complete rookie here, but i've never dealt with an OEM iron 4 bbl from this era. the intake (i'm going to guess is a spread bore) it has 2 inlets, but they're not open ovals like you see on a modern square bore. they're figure 8 shaped. making me think it's a spread bore intended for a TQ... am i right?

i may be looking at a different 4 bbl intake, may even go Ederbrock or something...still gathering you guys' information.

arent the TQs 800 CFM?

i'm gladly taking all of you guys' information to construct the big picture adn make my decision


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Charger_440] #1585039
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Quote:

making me think it's a spread bore intended for a TQ... am i right?




Yes, and its very heavy. The TQ intake is the best flowing of the factory units but an Edelbrock RPM will blow it away and can be had used for as little as $100-$150

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arent the TQs 800 CFM?




800 and 850 from the factory.




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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: gdonovan] #1585040
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ok, so, definitely dont need thatmuch carb is the general concensus is that i need les than 750. a couppl of the articles i have read show on similar builds, improvements in stats up through 750CFM dropping off at 800 and up. so, maybe i'll start searching in the direction of an eddy intake and sompatible square bore carb.

is that Demon a square bore? how pricey?
keep the info and suggestions coming guys.

any market for this TQ intake?


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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Charger_440] #1585041
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Quote:



is that Demon a square bore? how pricey?






Its a TQ clone by Holley but will bolt on a squarebore intake. Summit or Jegs has them for reasonable money.

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any market for this TQ intake?




I have one under my bench for 20 years, can't give it away.




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Re: Help wtih carb choice, please...LA 360 rebuild [Re: Charger_440] #1585042
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Just got done ordering a new street demon #1901 625cfm. Amazon had it for $349. + tax, so I called around and found someone to match price with no tax or shipping. Going on my 360 in a van so I got the poly model which is little more $$ than the all alum model #1900 but will work better in the heat I think.

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so...dont look at me sideways when I ask this, lol. I have avoided aluminum imtales because my only experience with them is that they heat soak and cause vapor lock when hot.

is there
A. an iron square bore intake with performance akin to the edelbrock?

B. an aluminum intake that wont have issues or a way to avoid the heat issues?


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