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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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The thin whitewall is very cool way to go.
There is a member here that also sells wheels. I think he sells Specialty Wheels brand. Don't quote me but his name has Duster in it I think.I special ordered through him years ago to have the wheels made with brushed spokes like factory wheels. You can also buy used and refinish the black paint on the front and back if you look for sets with good spokes.
Oh if your car is a 69 that's a one year only trim ring so good luck on finding 4 of them!!!
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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02/17/14 09:16 PM
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Oh if your car is a 69 that's a one year only trim ring so good luck on finding 4 of them!!!
Ron
What makes them one year only? They are brushed correct? I can see where this is going... full wheel covers. I wanted something a little different than most of the other cars anyway.
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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02/17/14 11:58 PM
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Disclaimer - Long Post Warning - I've got a 440 powered Charger 500 with a build date of September '68. No build sheet. I really wanted to put 15's on the car but have been advised that without the Hemi it's obviously a wrong choice...as in you couldn't even opt for them with just a 440. Because of the early build I'm going to use F-70-14 GoodYears with the narrow whitewall (don't like redlines on a green car) and have come to wheel choices. The currently available repro 14" Roadwheels are chrome and I'm told they're not right... should be a satin type finish on the spokes. So... do I lose the same points for the "wrong" finish on the road wheel as I would if I had a 15" on the car? Then why not just use the 15's ? Second thing I need help with is figuring out the wheelcover options should I decide to simply go with 14" steelies. I've attached the choices for wheel covers but not sure what the S/C in the description indicates. My car has neither the Spring Special A41 nor Special Edition A47 options. Which choices could be correct for 14" wheelcovers? I've actually got a decent set of the 15" covers as shown but... Hemi only? Thanks for the advice, assistance and decoding help. Mike
I think the "S/C" stands for Sales Code, AKA option code to most of us. As you said, your car would have had 14" wheels, 15" were not an option. AFAIK, without the broadcast sheet there is no way to tell which covers it had. The hub caps were standard equipment, with 3 optional wheel covers available as shown in the dealer data book.
If incorrect 14" wheels have the same effect as 15" wheels for judging then I certainly agree with you, go for the 15"!
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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Go with the base for judging and what you want the rest of the time. I'm thinking Fentons with some fatboys out back.
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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02/18/14 12:25 PM
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Most judges would knock off more points for chrome magnums than original finish road wheels with brushed trim rings. If you use 15 inch and use original style caps, most will not knock you for the size change. I use a set of 14 original restored road wheels with brushed trim rings and red lines to show. Then I have another set of "fun" custom wheels and tires for driving. Really depends on what show and what level of judging. Most local shows, Carlisle, and AACA no one will notice or know the difference. The Nats...... they will know! 
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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How early in September - what is the SPD? How well OPTIONED is the 500, or is it a stripper? If you are going with the F70-14 "white stripe" tire, it's Goodyear "SPEEDWAY" & NOT "POLYGLAS".
Sep 20, '68 I believe. It's very highly optioned. 440, Auto, Console, A/C, Cruise Control, Am/FM, Sure Grip, Rear Def, Rocker Moldings, Exhaust tips, P/disc brakes, Woodgrain wheel.
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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With an OPTION list like that - I'd bet it originally had "red stripe" POLYGLAS (T85 = more money $26.45) & "ROAD wheels" (W21 = even more money $86.15). 
Yeah, I found some red on the rear drums which would seem to indicate road wheels. But.. if I can't find correct ones I'll just go with wheelcovers or dog dish caps. The white stripe tires were a no-cost option and I think were Speedways, not polyglas that early
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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I have a set of 15" Road Wheels - they need a trim ring as the outer lip is not finished in chrome. I believe they are from Specialty Wheel. I got them from Chris G, (just6t9chgr) he's a member here. Hopefully he can post a pic. Have you looked into them?
My SE came with the W15 wheel cover. Top right of the picture in the original post.
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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02/19/14 04:08 AM
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Most judges would knock off more points for chrome magnums than original finish road wheels with brushed trim rings. If you use 15 inch and use original style caps, most will not knock you for the size change.
I use a set of 14 original restored road wheels with brushed trim rings and red lines to show. Then I have another set of "fun" custom wheels and tires for driving.
Really depends on what show and what level of judging.
Most local shows, Carlisle, and AACA no one will notice or know the difference. The Nats...... they will know!
I think that is a pretty good suggestion. Wing car classes are sort of inconsistent. Sometimes higher detailed cars, sometimes not.
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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02/20/14 09:36 PM
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I use a set of 14 original restored road wheels with brushed trim rings and red lines to show.
I don't think I've ever seen redlines on road wheels. Chrome magnum 500's all day long but not the road wheels. So redline speedways are probably what came on the car.. I'd like to see if you can post a pic.
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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With all the OPTIONs - WAG I'd bet the car came with "redline" POLYGLAS tires (but it could have been any of these 3). 1969 musclecar b-bodies (with STANDARD 383HP 4bbl & 440HP 4bbl engines): T83 Goodyear "SPEEDWAY" red stripe F70-14 - STANDARD (nylon cord tire) * some Firestone WIDE OVALs have been found during the model year T82 Goodyear "SPEEDWAY" white stripe F70-14 - OPTIONAL no/charge (nylon cord tire) * some Firestone WIDE OVALs have been found during the model year T85 Goodyear "POLYGLAS" red stripe F70-14 - OPTIONAL $26.45 (fiberglass belted tire) The "SPEEDWAY" or "WIDE OVAL" tire of the 1968-'69 vintage was the redline tire everyone remembers that got less than 20k miles. The POLYGLAS was a huge improvement.   I don't believe Firestone got a 60 or 70 series fiberglass belted OE installed production tire (still branded "WIDE OVAL") until mid-'70 model year (& NOT on a MOPAR).
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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02/21/14 12:05 PM
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Really MCTPhoenix? because that is what was originally on 69 road runners, bees etc. Not chrome magnums but road wheels which look like magnums but only have stainless spokes with the rest of the wheel black followed by brushed trim rings. Then most of the red lines were Good Year "polyglass" not Speedways. F70X14 to be exact. See 6bblgt's post for additional info
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Re: Judges Opinion? '69 Charger Wheel Options - Help!
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A friend of mine has a early built 69 Plymouth GTX vert and his car originally came with the Chrome Road wheels as his car was built the last week in Sept. of 68 so it IS possible that your car could have come with the Chromed road wheels.
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