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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/15/14 02:00 AM
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You didnt want to weld up the one side?.. what manifold
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Sorry Mike I just came in from the shop. I bought this intake on Moparts Feb 3 and this is how it was listed.
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I jump on Indys site to look it up to make sure it was the same as the one I did for my Friend and it was. I stuck it on the flow bench tonight and checked number three port as number 3 and 6 were the hardest to get good number on my buddies. Low and high number were ok but I have more work to do to bring up the mid lift numbers. Here are some flow number with a 2.08 valve Edelbrock head. Airspeed is still high in this head but there's only so much metal to work with where you start with a 177cc casting. Stock with a 2.02 valve it maxed out at [Email]243cfm@.700[/Email]
-------Ported head-----------------ported head with Indy intake
.100-----66------------------------65
.200----148------------------------140
.300----209------------------------202
.350----239------------------------227
.400----258------------------------243
.450----278------------------------256
.500----292------------------------268
.550----295------------------------273
.600----306------------------------279
.650----310------------------------296
.700----291------------------------300
As you can see the intake actually helped at .700 lift. I think the extra volume in the Indy intake slows the airspeed down some and calms the head. On my buddies we hit 317-318cfm on some of the other runners. More work later this weekend.
That sure dont look like any W-2 I know of... I guess
it doesnt matter if your changing the port shape..
all the W-2s I know of had oval ports
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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02/15/14 02:12 AM
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Quote: You didnt want to weld up the one side?.. what manifold is that Here's a couple of pictures of the port opened up and the little modifying needed to an Edelbrock intake gasket. I have to tig weld the adapter in a couple of spots so I can taper it more.   On the bench  
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/15/14 02:20 AM
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You didnt want to weld up the one side?.. what manifold
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Here's a couple of pictures of the port opened up and the little modifying needed to an Edelbrock intake gasket. I have to tig weld the adapter in a couple of spots so I can taper it more.
On the bench
Got ya... I was thinking there was a big difference
in the intake to head(air was crashing into the head)
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: Jeremiah]
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02/15/14 06:12 PM
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I did some similar work to my 400-2 intake and always wondered what these things were supposed to accomplish. I removed them in when I matched the intake to my HVH/NxExpress N2O plate. Thoughts?
I have been wondering about those same areas on my Indy small block intake as well
By the way John, very nice work on yours! I notice you really got down into the plenum- what is the benefit of flattening those walls out like that? (hopefully I am making sense lol)
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/15/14 07:02 PM
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I did some similar work to my 400-2 intake and always wondered what these things were supposed to accomplish. I removed them in when I matched the intake to my HVH/NxExpress N2O plate. Thoughts?
I have been wondering about those same areas on my Indy small block intake as well
By the way John, very nice work on yours! I notice you really got down into the plenum- what is the benefit of flattening those walls out like that? (hopefully I am making sense lol)
Thanks Matt. At that point the only port really shaped in enough was #3 and I just wanted to get some numbers to sleep on as I will be spending lots of time clearing snow from my driveway. Warm-up coming this week and I want to get the Duster home hopefully next Sunday. I flatten the walls and will be playing with some different shapes to get some needed volume to help slow the head speed down some. I will try to get 10-15 more cfm in the mid lifts. 3 and 6 are a struggle as they have to navigate the pinch on the short runners. I'm glad I don't have to pay myself by the hour.
So flattening and angling the walls of the plenum in these pictures is to help slow down the head speed?
My intake is already port matched, but I was thinking about doing some plenum work to it....The question Jeremiah brought up and seeing your pictures has made me curious to the benefits (if any) of the stock opening vs. how you are flattening and angling the plenum entry area.
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/15/14 07:27 PM
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I did some similar work to my 400-2 intake and always wondered what these things were supposed to accomplish. I removed them in when I matched the intake to my HVH/NxExpress N2O plate. Thoughts?
I have been wondering about those same areas on my Indy small block intake as well
By the way John, very nice work on yours! I notice you really got down into the plenum- what is the benefit of flattening those walls out like that? (hopefully I am making sense lol)
Thanks Matt. At that point the only port really shaped in enough was #3 and I just wanted to get some numbers to sleep on as I will be spending lots of time clearing snow from my driveway. Warm-up coming this week and I want to get the Duster home hopefully next Sunday. I flatten the walls and will be playing with some different shapes to get some needed volume to help slow the head speed down some. I will try to get 10-15 more cfm in the mid lifts. 3 and 6 are a struggle as they have to navigate the pinch on the short runners. I'm glad I don't have to pay myself by the hour.
So flattening and angling the walls of the plenum in these pictures is to help slow down the head speed?
My intake is already port matched, but I was thinking about doing some plenum work to it....The question Jeremiah brought up and seeing your pictures has made me curious to the benefits (if any) of the stock opening vs. how you are flattening and angling the plenum entry area.
In you case with the Indy head I can't tell you how it will respond or if its needed as much. The Edelbrock head is so volume limited you will get one area slowed down and then the next limited area needs work. I haven't cc'd one in a long time but I will on this set of heads to check port volume. I am then going to pour a mold for later reference. If you check out my flow numbers check out .700 lift and you can see how the intake helped. If you never made a mold of a port do it sometime as its very interesting what you can see. I have a website saved from the place I buy the mold compound if you are interested. What cc head did you end up getting?
I have never even heard of pouring a mold of a port..have a link to the site that sells the stuff?
My heads are the 360-2 230's (CNC)
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: mshred]
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02/15/14 08:02 PM
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Mshred, this is a picture of my Indy intake that Brett Miller ported for a Engine Masters motor that I now have with the 360-2 heads. He also put a adapter for a 1050 Dom. on it. But it is a 4 hole adapter.
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: mshred]
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02/15/14 08:06 PM
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This is the company I bought it from but I will try to check my stock to see what number I bought. Don't forget to clean the port good and use a mold release. http://www.uscomposites.com/moldmaking.htmlIts really nice looking at a 3D port.
1970 Duster
Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27
Livin and lovin life one day at a time
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
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02/16/14 12:38 PM
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Mshred, this is a picture of my Indy intake that Brett Miller ported for a Engine Masters motor that I now have with the 360-2 heads. He also put a adapter for a 1050 Dom. on it. But it is a 4 hole adapter.
Damn, Brett does NICE work! It would seem based on the way he shaped yours that it might be a good idea to leave mine alone instead of flatten/straighten like John has with his for the eddy heads..with 230cc's I would imagine that shape helps
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Re: Started my Indy intake mods for this years engine
[Re: pittsburghracer]
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02/16/14 12:39 PM
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This is the company I bought it from but I will try to check my stock to see what number I bought. Don't forget to clean the port good and use a mold release.
http://www.uscomposites.com/moldmaking.html
Its really nice looking at a 3D port.
Cool, thanks John, I'll check it out 
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