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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: 383man] #1576734
02/11/14 04:36 PM
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Sportsman is the street class out at RT 66. They usually have 40-50 cars. It is open to cars from 12:00-19:99. The sad part is they did not make it DOT and mufflers. Most of the Indy team is made up of cars running slicks and open headers in the 12.0-13.0 range. These guys stay in Sportsman because they are scared to death of the guys in Pro with transbrakes.


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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: slantzilla] #1576735
02/12/14 02:28 AM
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I don't get out much, but at both tracks I get to (Bremerton & Pacific), Sportsman is a 12.00 & higher bracket and its pretty competitive. There's plenty of guys with race-specific cars set up in the 12-second range that are pretty consistant and have been playing in Sportsman for years. Next would be Pro-bracket, and you can run pro up to 13.00, so there is some overlap. Typical of the Pro-bracket car is the 10-second foot-brake ride, and there's a lot of shoes that are pretty good up here. You have to be on your game to go rounds in Pro.


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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: slantzilla] #1576736
02/13/14 02:32 AM
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I'm starting to think maybe it's a local issue. Guess we'll see how things go at the next points race.


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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: MadMopars] #1576737
02/13/14 01:37 PM
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I feel "street" should be trophy ONLY!! , no payout!! That way you keep the duck hunters away so the new folks can learn how to play with out spending so much money they wont come back

Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: stockerbill] #1576738
02/13/14 01:45 PM
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Here are our payouts at PRP and street does receive money and the street class works very nice. Trophy class is for no money.

Entries / Payouts

DISCLAIMER: Prices are subject to change.

Hard Metal Tooling Modified Class
(13.99 and quicker. Transbrake and Air-shifter allowed.)
Entry Fee $45, Re-entry $20, winner $800, R/U $350, semi's $100, $15 round money after 2nd round win (Re-entries do NOT get points). Thanks to Hard Metal Tooling, Modified will pay $1000 to win the remainder of the 2013 points days!

Mike's Auto Body Top Class
(11.99 and quicker. Delay Box Class.)
Entry Fee $45, Re-entry $20, winner $800, R/U $350, semi's $100, $15 round money after 2nd round win (Re-entries do NOT get points).

B & R Speed Supply Street Class
(12.00 and slower. Footbrake only. Slicks (must have driveshaft loop) and open headers allowed.
Entry fee $35, Re-entry $20, winner $350, R/U $150, $15 round money after 2nd round win (Re-entries do NOT get points). Thanks to Carmen Tedesco and Carmen's Cafeteria, Street class will pay $500 to win for the remaining points days in 2013!

Z & M Cycle Bike Class
Entry fee $35, winner $250, R/U $150. No round money. Re-entry $20. (Re-entries do NOT get points)

Millerstown Pic A Part Trophy Class
(12.00 and slower. Footbrake only. NO slicks or open headers allowed.)
Entry fee $20, winner receives a large trophy, R/U a small trophy. Re-entry $15. There MUST be at least 2 cars who Re-enter in order to have re-entries.

Silvermine Jr. Dragster Classes 8-12 and 13-17
Entry fee $25, winner receives a large trophy and $50, R/U receives a small trophy and $25.
Second chance entry $10. Second chance winner receives a small trophy. (Second chance racers do NOT get points)

Cars Protection Plus Teen Championship Racing (TCR) Class: This is a great entry level class, where kids 13-17 can race a street legal vehicle, 10.00 seconds and slower (1/8th mile). The kids make license passes with a track official, and race with a parent or guardian in the car, who drives the car in the pits. Please let us know if your child would be interested in joining the class.
Entry fee $20, winner receives a large trophy. (No Buy-Backs)

Mumau Diesel Pickups
(Open to all diesel pick up trucks, bracket class, run on these Night at the Races dates: June 29, July 19, August 16, September 13, October 5)
Entry Fee $25, $200 to win, $100 runner up

Test-N-Tune
(There is no TNT on race days.)
Car and driver entry fee $25, spectator fee $7 or a carload for $20. Kids 10 and under are FREE.

Regular Race Days
Adult spectators $10, kids 10 and under are FREE.

Gambler's Race
Entry fee $35. Payout is as follows:

15-24 Cars = $250 win, R/U $100.
25-34 Cars = $350 win, R/U $125.
35-44 Cars = $350 win, R/U $125, $50 semis.
45-59 Cars = $500 win, R/U $150, $75 semis.
60+ Cars = $600 Win, R/U $200, $75 semis, $10 round money startng with 2nd round win.


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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: pittsburghracer] #1576739
02/13/14 01:55 PM
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Cars Protection Plus Teen Championship Racing (TCR) Class: This is a great entry level class, where kids 13-17 can race a street legal vehicle, 10.00 seconds and slower (1/8th mile). The kids make license passes with a track official, and race with a parent or guardian in the car, who drives the car in the pits. Please let us know if your child would be interested in joining the class.
Entry fee $20, winner receives a large trophy. (No Buy-Backs)





That's pretty awesome. I think my son will probably make me move Pennsylvania if he hears this.


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69 DART GT *440*4 SPEED*DANA*
73 ROAD RUNNER *451*4 SPEED*DANA*
64 F100 *383*4 SPEED*9"*
75 DODGE D300 *440*4 SPEED*DANA*
99 DODGE RAM 3500 4X4 DUALLY... ON 38"s
Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: MadMopars] #1576740
02/13/14 02:13 PM
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Cars Protection Plus Teen Championship Racing (TCR) Class: This is a great entry level class, where kids 13-17 can race a street legal vehicle, 10.00 seconds and slower (1/8th mile). The kids make license passes with a track official, and race with a parent or guardian in the car, who drives the car in the pits. Please let us know if your child would be interested in joining the class.
Entry fee $20, winner receives a large trophy. (No Buy-Backs)





That's pretty awesome. I think my son will probably make me move Pennsylvania if he hears this.






Those kids have a blast and its safely run. Between that class and jr dragsters these kids are tough racers by time they settle in modified and top.


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Edelbrock headed 408
5.984@112.52
422 Indy headed small block
5.982@112.56 mph
9.42@138.27

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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: stockerbill] #1576741
02/13/14 02:23 PM
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I feel "street" should be trophy ONLY!! , no payout!! That way you keep the duck hunters away so the new folks can learn how to play with out spending so much money they wont come back




Good point.
One thing I always see that I wish would change is the 12.00 line for sportsman / street classes. NHRA draws the line at 11.49 for the roll-bar and some other safety items. There's lots of guys that build cars to go just over that, so they don't have to put a bar in their street cars (I'm this guy). So if you push up to the NHRA rules, you're typically too fast to race sportsman, and a dead duck with a slow street car in Pro. I'd like to see tracks align their classes with the NHRA safety rules.

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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: StealthWedge67] #1576742
02/13/14 03:02 PM
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But I like Duck season...there are ducks in every class, you just have to know where to look.

I like our Sportsman class at Lucas Oil Raceway (12.00-19.99), it gets 25-30 cars on an average week and there are a lot of good racers in the class. There is nothing "beginner" about it, and I like it that way. I just wish I had a car slow enough to compete in it. I tried it last year with my mid 10 second car, de-tuned up the wazoo to make it run 12.0x, it was a BLAST. The people are nice and welcome new folks making it a fun time even if you loose. I also think that if you are a newbie to the sport you shouldn't expect to win unless you have entitlement issues.

I do believe there should be a separate "trophy class" with no payout geared more toward the newbies of the sport, but it probably would not get that much traffic in my area...maybe a hand full of cars if that.


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Re: "Street Class" What a sad state of affairs... [Re: StealthWedge67] #1576743
02/13/14 03:33 PM
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I would like to see a new pro class 10.00-11.99 no box, foot brake and no studder box(can brake out if too fast,mph and et) use the NHRA world records, it shows what mph is for a given et ,no more 11.0 cars going 160 mph, then there would be average type cars, not $100,000 cars to win $1000. A Duster with a 360 and tires can fit right in,low dollar. Pay this class the big money and every body will be slowing down there cars. This will help the entry level street cars by allowing them to learn racing and not brake the bank then it wouldn't take much to move up when they are ready.

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