What a shock! 70 B Body Elect. problem
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11/26/08 11:16 PM
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I just brought home a 38k original mile 70 Coronet 440 with a 383. Everything checks out ok BUT....when you turn on the parking lights the left inst. cluster turn signal light glows dim and the fuel gauge pegs. Turn on the left signal and same thing happens but the signal functions. Hit the brakes again same thing. Right signal no effect.
I have not had much time with it so far I pulled the forward harness at the bulkhead and checked connections and they are ok. Checked both front and rear left side bulbs and sockets..ok.
I will start the trouble shooting this weekend. I figured before I did I would throw it out there. Maybe someone here has had a similar odd ball issue and could save me some time.
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70 Coronet 440 N code 3 speed
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Re: What a shock! 70 B Body Elect. problem
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11/27/08 01:05 AM
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Thanks...I was leaning towards a ground problem. I will check it out this weekend and post up what I find.
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70 Coronet 440 N code 3 speed
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Re: What a shock! 70 B Body Elect. problem
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11/27/08 12:12 PM
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Your LF or LR running lamp bulb has a bad ground. The current flow is looking for ground. The current flows through the stop lamp filiment back to the dash cluster through the turn signal indicator bulb. It is finding ground at the dash cluster. Check your running lamp bulbs,sockets, and socket grounds. It could be any one of the three. Doug
The fact that the fuel gauge is acting up indicates that the DASH CLUSTER is not grounded. There is probably additional grounds. I'd pull ALL the harness grounds--headlights, parking, tail, etc, dash, where-ever else you can find a ground, pull it loose, grind it bare, and remake the connection. Pull the kick panels--I don't remember if there are any in there--and look up around the dash. Inspect things like the heater/ wiper motor, etc.
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Re: What a shock! 70 B Body Elect. problem
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11/28/08 12:22 AM
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Well here is the deal as best I can figure it out. The rf filter attached to the voltage regulator on the back of the panel came loose from the screw that holds it to the panel. It made contact with the positive stud to the ammeter. At the same time it was touching the circuit board. A part of the board is showing damage. Mainly the upper left corner. It seems the fuel gauge goes haywire only when the instrument lamps are on or the left turn signal. If I remove the dash bulb for the turn signal the fuel gauge is fine.
Anyone know where I could find a schematic to the circuit board on a non rallye dash car?
77 Macho Power Wagon LWB factory 440
70 Coronet 440 N code 3 speed
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Re: What a shock! 70 B Body Elect. problem
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11/28/08 07:15 PM
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I would still double-check the cluster grounds. Some clusters have multiple grounds, as some clusters have two circuit boards (left side, right side).
So if the Ammeter and Oil light work, but the fuel, temp and turn signals do not, I suggest checking that side. It never hurts to have more grounds than necessary.
Also, if things work fine when the lights are off, and things go screwy when lights are on, that is also an indication of a poor ground. Basically, you're overloading whatever ground circuit is still functioning, due to resistance, corrosion, etc.
I still say, check grounds on the cluster. Add one or two new ones just in case. All the clusters in all my cars work.
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Re: What a shock! 70 B Body Elect. problem
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11/29/08 02:53 AM
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Well I checked thru everything and the circuit board is damaged no question. One area has lifted from the board and was burned. When you push on it or move the bulb at that area the fuel gauge goes crazy the left signal lights up or the high beam indicator lights. Or all or some. The temp gauge looks like it was damaged long ago as I have continuity to the gauge but it does not move even when I put voltage to it. I am guessing the circuit board is a lot worse off than what I can see.
I got an NOS temp gauge and figured I might as well get a new circuit board and tear it apart and fix everything at once. Anyone know of a vendor on here that sells the boards for the standard 120 mph panel?
77 Macho Power Wagon LWB factory 440
70 Coronet 440 N code 3 speed
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