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Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? #1570038
01/28/14 12:28 PM
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I've been wanting another truck and a hot rod. So, why not a hot rod truck? I found this 54 which has a 318/727/8 3/4 upgrade. I dig it but it needs to be lower. Advise me on options, pit falls, etc. I want a game plan if I buy it.

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: wedgeheaded] #1570039
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Does it still have the beam front axle?
You can modify the axle and move it above the springs instead of being below the springs. If you do this, watch the oil pan clearance. Short of this, you can probably remove every other spring from each front spring pack. The next option is a Mustang II suspension, or other front frame clip (like a Dakota).

Have the brakes been upgraded?
Also, take care of that windshield, they are hard to find and expensive, only fit 54 and early 55. Gene

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: poorboy] #1570040
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Does it still have the beam front axle?
You can modify the axle and move it above the springs instead of being below the springs. If you do this, watch the oil pan clearance. Short of this, you can probably remove every other spring from each front spring pack. The next option is a Mustang II suspension, or other front frame clip (like a Dakota).

Have the brakes been upgraded?
Also, take care of that windshield, they are hard to find and expensive, only fit 54 and early 55. Gene




It has the stock axle up front. I'm looking at having "Sids" re-shape the front for a 3" drop ($350) and then removing leaves to lower more if needed. It has drum brakes though they have been rebuilt. Discs are on my mind for sometime. I haven't bought it yet. I wanted to see what I was getting into before I jumped in.

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: wedgeheaded] #1570041
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Nice truck. Put a Dakota front clip on it and it will look like this.

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Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: Dabee] #1570042
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Nice truck. Put a Dakota front clip on it and it will look like this. [/quot

I so dig that truck. It's part of the reason I'm looking at this 54. I kinda want to keep it old school though. (at least for now) A frame swap is a big, time consuming job. I just don't have the time right now. I'd love to see more of your truck if you have pics. I'm at addes426@gmail.com

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: wedgeheaded] #1570043
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with the dakota clip you still need to buy the 2 inch drop spindles and possibly the drop coils as well----unless you Z the frame...

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: savoy64] #1570044
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with the dakota clip you still need to buy the 2 inch drop spindles and possibly the drop coils as well----unless you Z the frame...




It all depends on how you attach the Dakota clip.

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: Dabee] #1570045
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hope u pull the trigger and by it too kool to pass by,,

disc brakes,,rusty hope or scare bird will have a kit with off the shelf parts


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Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: fstfish66] #1570046
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hope u pull the trigger and by it too kool to pass by,,

disc brakes,,rusty hope or scare bird will have a kit with off the shelf parts




Yea, I think so too. My 75 Cordoba has a set of AR Torque Thrusts that would make it rock too.

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: wedgeheaded] #1570047
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For quick n dirty, drop the front axle, there are still shops that do that.

R.

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: Dabee] #1570048
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thats why they call it Z-ing a frame---without a picture here it is basically putting a dakota frame on top of the original truck frame---makes a stair step thereby lowering the truck...

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thats why they call it Z-ing a frame---without a picture here it is basically putting a dakota frame on top of the original truck frame---makes a stair step thereby lowering the truck...




Like this

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Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: Dabee] #1570050
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thats why they call it Z-ing a frame---without a picture here it is basically putting a dakota frame on top of the original truck frame---makes a stair step thereby lowering the truck...




Like this




Lol!


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Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: moparpollack] #1570051
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Well, it's accademic now. I called sat morning and he'd sold it. I was stuck working 16s due to the cold weather and missed it. I'm still looking.

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: wedgeheaded] #1570052
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That sucks! I'll keep a look out for one down here for ya.

Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: wedgeheaded] #1570053
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Well, it's accademic now. I called sat morning and he'd sold it. I was stuck working 16s due to the cold weather and missed it. I'm still looking.




there is a web forum for mainly 1940 plymouth and dodges they also have a pilot house section on that forum you mayfind a truck for sale there
www.p-15/d-24


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Re: Best way to lower a 54 Pilothouse PU? [Re: fstfish66] #1570054
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Well, it's accademic now. I called sat morning and he'd sold it. I was stuck working 16s due to the cold weather and missed it. I'm still looking.




there is a web forum for mainly 1940 plymouth and dodges they also have a pilot house section on that forum you mayfind a truck for sale there
www.p-15/d-24





Thanks. I hang out there some. They've been a big help.







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