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Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads #1569100 01/26/14 07:21 PM 01/26/14 07:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA M mopar4ya OP master
mopar4ya OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	Have a friend looking for a set of aluminum heads for his 500 inch RB engine. It has the 440 Source rotating assembly with their Comp Cams Xtreme energy .564 cam. Who has the best bang for the buck head that would be a reliable piece. Are there any issues with using the 440 Source head, or are there better options? Thanks Dan

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: mopar4ya] #1569101 01/26/14 08:06 PM 01/26/14 08:06 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,378 Rancho Cordova, CA Exit1965 master
Exit1965 master Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 3,378 Rancho Cordova, CA	There are the Edelbrock e-street. I think they are $1250 a pair, at least they were last year. Mine have 75cc chambers, not sure if there are other ccs available.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: Exit1965] #1569102 01/26/14 08:47 PM 01/26/14 08:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,079 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,079 Niles , Ohio	I have the first Stealths.They had a problem with some gaskets hanging in the chamber.That is fixed now.Mine have over 4 years of hard street/strip and no problems.I did change the springs retainers and locks which I would have done even if I had bought Eddys.I needed straight plugs as I run 12.5 domes.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: mopar4ya] #1569103 01/26/14 10:46 PM 01/26/14 10:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio fourgearsavoy I Live Here
fourgearsavoy I Live Here Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 10,555 Rittman Ohio	I put Indy EZ heads on my stroker and I really like them.If it's going to be a street car I would go with the Edelbrock heads Give Nick a call at www.compu-flow.com and let him set them up and check the valve job after you buy them from him. Gus 8013109-savoyburnout.jpg (178 downloads) 64 Plymouth Savoy 493 Indy EZ's by Nick at Compu-Flow 5-Speed Richmond faceplate Liberty box Dana 60

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1569104 01/27/14 12:53 AM 01/27/14 12:53 AM
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383man Too Many Posts 3 Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 27,421 Balt. Md	I did the same as Gus and went with the Indy EZ heads as I think you can get them for about $1900. right now. But I bought mine from Dwayne Porter and he just cleaned up for me and made sure they were setup right. I went with EZ heads because I feel they have more potential down the road for more flow then the Eddy's and Stealth's if I decided to have them fully ported down the road and step up my combo some more. For now I just went with him opening them up to Max Wedge ports. But for a street car that is not looking to get even more performance down the road I would say the 440Source Stealths or Eddy heads will work fine. Both of them will even work very good ported but I just feel I can get a little more out of the EZ heads if I want to really go all out with them later. And Dwayne Porter gave me a great deal and did an awesome job. Ron

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: 383man] #1569105 01/27/14 01:36 AM 01/27/14 01:36 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,607 Western Washington Sixgun top fuel
Sixgun top fuel Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,607 Western Washington	Worth mentioning that the last engine masters builds, (like THREE of them in competition)used ProComps???????Big power, big inches.Might be worth looking into,asking a few questions. Popular Hot Rodding Feb. 2014

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: Sixgun] #1569106 01/27/14 01:49 AM 01/27/14 01:49 AM
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Anonymous Unregistered A	The valve guide material in the Procomps is not good stuff and fails quickly--valve quality is very poor as well. You can order good valves pretty cheap but the stuff that comes in Procomp heads is bottom of the barrel IMO. With the price of Eddys where it is now it is a small jump to Indy. All are TOO high $$ when you see Chevy heads that are great quality for $900 retail.The only diff is Mopar may use a few more lbs of aluminum. I think before long there will be more Mopar choices--there has to be sooner or later. The overseas guys have been making heads for so many outfits now ,I bet it is only a matter of time before we see something new and value priced along with top shelf quality.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: fourgearsavoy] #1569107 01/27/14 10:54 AM 01/27/14 10:54 AM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,079 Niles , Ohio T therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah.
therocks oh wait.but hey.lets see.oh yeah. T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 21,079 Niles , Ohio	Gus I forgot about telling him to have the valves etc checked.Jerry did all that to my heads.Plus he lapped the valves and opened the heads up a bit.Of course you know he has to have everything perfect.I never used Nick but talked to him a few times.Real nice guy and sells you just what you need.Rocky Chrysler Firepower

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: ] #1569108 01/27/14 12:47 PM 01/27/14 12:47 PM
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CompWedgeEngines master Joined: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,544 Syracuse,NY	Quote: The valve guide material in the Procomps is not good stuff and fails quickly--valve quality is very poor as well. You can order good valves pretty cheap but the stuff that comes in Procomp heads is bottom of the barrel IMO. With the price of Eddys where it is now it is a small jump to Indy. All are TOO high $$ when you see Chevy heads that are great quality for $900 retail.The only diff is Mopar may use a few more lbs of aluminum. I agree, and good advice David. RIP Monte Smith Your work is a reflection of yourself, autograph it with quality. WD for Diamond Pistons,Sidewinder cylinder heads, Wiseco, K1 rods and cranks,BAM lifters, Morel lifters, Molnar Technologies, Harland Sharp, Pro Gear, Cometic, King Engine Bearings and many others.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: CompWedgeEngines] #1569109 01/27/14 01:07 PM 01/27/14 01:07 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,395 The Pale Blue Dot Skeptic master
Skeptic master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 4,395 The Pale Blue Dot	For a street type head 440 Source or Eddie RPM, you can probably find some used floating around. Either way you should have them checked and have correct springs installed for your cam.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: mopar4ya] #1569110 01/27/14 07:44 PM 01/27/14 07:44 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL Chris2581 master
Chris2581 master Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,531 Jacksonville, FL	Either the 440 Stealth's or Edelbrocks. I'm using Stealths with no problems. Nautilus Racing- We use Superformance gaskets and Turbo Action converters/products.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: Chris2581] #1569111 01/27/14 08:25 PM 01/27/14 08:25 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia C chrisf master
chrisf master C Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 5,948 British Columbia	I have owned rpm's, e street and source heads. e street is the best bang for the buck in my opinion. stealth's are garbage unless you need a wheel chock.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: chrisf] #1569112 01/27/14 09:26 PM 01/27/14 09:26 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo Too Many Posts Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 21,318 Manitoba, Canada	Quote: stealth's are garbage unless you need a wheel chock. what problems did you have with yours?

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: therocks] #1569113 01/27/14 10:01 PM 01/27/14 10:01 PM
Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,318 Prospect, PA BSB67 master
BSB67 master Joined: Feb 2005 Posts: 4,318 Prospect, PA	Quote: Gus I forgot about telling him to have the valves etc checked.Jerry did all that to my heads.Plus he lapped the valves and opened the heads up a bit.Of course you know he has to have everything perfect.I never used Nick but talked to him a few times.Real nice guy and sells you just what you need.Rocky I don't think Nick will do Stealths.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: chrisf] #1569114 01/27/14 10:24 PM 01/27/14 10:24 PM
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mopar4ya OP master M Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,655 western PA	Quote: I have owned rpm's, e street and source heads. e street is the best bang for the buck in my opinion. stealth's are garbage unless you need a wheel chock. Are you saying this because they have problems or because of how they flow?? Thanks everyone, please keep the comments coming. Dan

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: mopar4ya] #1569115 01/27/14 10:47 PM 01/27/14 10:47 PM
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Tom_440 master Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,141 Las Vegas, NV	I have no problems using the Stealth heads. Had them checked before install and they are good on my street motor. If something around 500 hp is the goal they should be fine. If the goal is big power, then they are probably not the best choice.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: mopar4ya] #1569116 01/28/14 06:53 AM 01/28/14 06:53 AM
Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado 451Mopar master
451Mopar master Joined: May 2008 Posts: 5,399 Aurora, Colorado	I have an older set of the Stealth heads on the 440/505" stroker, mild street engine. I have had no problems with the heads, but I did some mild porting and valve job to get them to flow around 290 cfm. I think out of the box the flow would be down compared to most other aluminum heads. I used different springs, retainers and locks too. My main reason for using the Stealth heads is their more stock appearance when painted. I think the Edelbrock heads flow more out of the box, so they may be closer to a ready to bolt on out of the box type of head? These heads do not look stock if it matters. These stock port size heads are OK for mild performance to around 550 HP (600+ with porting and a roller cam), but with 500"+ strokers the larger max wedge port size is better if your looking for big power numbers. The down side is $1,000+ rocker arm assemblies, and headers for raised exhaust ports.

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: 451Mopar] #1569117 01/28/14 08:54 AM 01/28/14 08:54 AM
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QTR MILR enthusiast Q Joined: Jun 2013 Posts: 240 Ft. Wayne, IN.	One thing to watch if you go with Eddy RPM's, if you put a heavier spring in them make sure your set has the Ferrea valves!! The no name valves in some of them can't handle higher spring pressures.... You won't like what happens!! P.S. Replace the locks too... Last edited by QTR MILR; 01/28/14 09:04 AM. Scott 69 Satellite, 3650lb street car... Dunnuck Racing pump gas 440. Best of 10:60@127...

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: QTR MILR] #1569118 01/28/14 01:35 PM 01/28/14 01:35 PM
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rbstroker super stock R Joined: Sep 2006 Posts: 1,139 West Tennessee	I installed MP 452"s which are Eddy RPM's, built by Edelbrock, with straight plugs. The straight plugs were needed on my 500" stroker because I have Exhaust manifolds, not headers. Checked out at the advertised 84cc's. My Harland Sharp rockers and shafts were a bolt on, as were the rocker covers, intake, and exhaust. I am a happy camper with the quality and performance. This is the land of the free because of the brave

Re: Best bang for the buck / Aluminum RB heads [Re: rbstroker] #1569119 01/28/14 11:10 PM 01/28/14 11:10 PM
Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN A ahy master
ahy master A Joined: Jan 2007 Posts: 7,664 IN	I've got the Ed heads. Prepped and cleaned up by Muscle Motors. valvetrain fit with good geometry (Comp "pro magnum steel rockers") and I have had no problems.

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