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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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07/25/14 07:43 PM
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T OH, yeh... and the Gremlin???
  
Here ya go. Schwartz even makes a bolt in chassis for it so you can get all those cool Corvette parts the rest of us Mopar guys are too cheap to use.
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: TC@HP2]
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07/25/14 08:31 PM
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: amxautox]
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07/27/14 08:40 AM
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the frozen wastes...
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'68-69-70 AMX have a 97" wheel base. At least I think the '70 does also as it's a 2 seater as well. Weight is 3,100lbs. The '70 has a standard control arm suspension. The '69 and earlier had the trunnion, which is quite flimsy with the coil on top of the tower and a skinny 2 piece upper 'control arm'. The lower control arm is a slightly beefier.
The cars (68 to 70) seem similar enough... could you not just put a 70 suspension set-up into a 68-9? How about putting a 70 Javelin suspension into the earlier AMX? (easier to find than an AMX one)
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: TC@HP2]
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07/27/14 11:13 AM
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I'm sure that is an added cost option to the already $25k completely optioned roller frame, but its a lot less than the $80k you are into with the Mopar junk.
   Just buy a 2013 Boss 302, YA fools, and save BIG  MOPAR JUNK ? ? 
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: Pale_Roader]
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07/27/14 03:14 PM
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'68-69-70 AMX have a 97" wheel base. At least I think the '70 does also as it's a 2 seater as well. Weight is 3,100lbs. The '70 has a standard control arm suspension. The '69 and earlier had the trunnion, which is quite flimsy with the coil on top of the tower and a skinny 2 piece upper 'control arm'. The lower control arm is a slightly beefier.
The cars (68 to 70) seem similar enough... could you not just put a 70 suspension set-up into a 68-9? How about putting a 70 Javelin suspension into the earlier AMX? (easier to find than an AMX one)
Frame, k-member, mounting points/methods are different. I hear it was done or tried to be done and it wouldn't work.
Tom
"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."
-Henry David Thoreau
Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: amxautox]
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07/27/14 07:23 PM
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Apparently someone did it by cutting out the shock/spring towers and welding in the later units. Too much work, I'd just go with the aftermarket coil spring/coilover k-member set up.
Tom
"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."
-Henry David Thoreau
Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: B-Body Bull]
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07/28/14 12:24 PM
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NW Chicago suburban area
Mopar Mitch
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If you buy that 2013 Mustang... then.. you're just another same Mustang that everyone else has.
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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07/28/14 09:07 PM
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Fly Over States
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If you buy that 2013 Mustang... then.. you're just another same Mustang that everyone else has.
Much better off waiting for the new improved, 2015 Mustang with the IRS..... 
Everywhere I look around my house I see new Camaros, what is up with that? 
Scott have a blast with that Valiant in the event!
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: ScottSmith_Harms]
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07/28/14 11:29 PM
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"Tim's Valiant" (Hence forth known as Scott's RedBrik). Is planning to run the Virginia City Hillclimb event Sept 13-14. Its going to be a hoot as it's being put on by the Ferrari Club....Hey, the Valiant is a "Redhead" why not 
would love to hear a mopar beat a few high dollar ferrari's, don't beat too many - or they might not let you come back 
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
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07/29/14 12:24 PM
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Mopar Mitch
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Regarding beating too many "other" staple cars, such as Ferarris, etc, I recall back in the mid-1990s at the SCCA Solo II National championship event held in Kansas (Topeka or Salina), a Viper convertable (~94) won the S/S (Super Stock) class which was/is traditionally dominated by all Corvettes. So, the Viper was eliminated for the next few years to compete in that same class with the Corvettes. Poor Corvette drivers couldn't tolerate their loss.
In other words, maybe old Mopars, in particular "bricks", could also become evicted from competition if they crush the traditional competition that's expected to win... ?
Good luck Scott! I hope you blow their doors off! Its been done before and can be repeated!
Mopar Mitch
"Road racers and autocrossers go in deeper and come out harder!"... and rain never stops us from having fun with our cars... in fact, it makes us better drivers!
Check out MOPAR ACTION MAGAZINE, August 2006 issue for feature article and specs on my autocross T/A!
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Re: Mark stielow Camaro vs tim werners valiant
[Re: Mopar Mitch]
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07/29/14 12:59 PM
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If you buy that 2013 Mustang... then.. you're just another same Mustang that everyone else has.
I always say "Mustangs are like ---holes, everyone has one and they all stink!"
1969 Satellite Wagon - G3 Hemi Swap Incoming. | 1969 Coronet Post Coupe.
2002 Intrepid ES | 2009 Ram SLT | 2004 300M Special | 2002 300M Pro Am - Hers
Are you a New England Mopar Enthusiast?
Come check out the revived NorthEast Mighty Mopar at www.northeastmightymopar.com!
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