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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: sixpackjeff] #1566391
02/06/14 11:22 PM
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I raced at the 2003 Mopar event at Columbus, but I didn't know it was your race. Lots of fun back then. There were some less than racer friendly events later.

Good luck, keep us posted on the details.


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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: Racebuddy] #1566392
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I raced with Jeff...
One season and done with Charlie





One SEASON...?? One RACE was enough for me with CB!!


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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: CHAPPER] #1566393
02/07/14 05:23 PM
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Chapper, I knew you would check in on this thread sooner or later!

440Jim, you need to come back over here and rerun your gambler final with Don Bales, that was a classic!

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: cgall] #1566394
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Chapper, I knew you would check in on this thread sooner or later!

440Jim, you need to come back over here and rerun your gambler final with Don Bales, that was a classic!




Charley,,,you know how it is. You drive by a wreck and you know you shouldn't look,,,but you do.


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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: cgall] #1566395
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Chapper, I knew you would check in on this thread sooner or later!

440Jim, you need to come back over here and rerun your gambler final with Don Bales, that was a classic!


I just spoke with Bales yesterday!!!Was this in 2005? I know he won a gamblers race and a Hemi race that year. Charlie, give me some details.

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: Frito] #1566396
02/08/14 04:16 PM
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Frito I forget the exact year, but I remember seeing Don and Bob testing at Edgewater with the '68 Cuda he had before the SS/AH car was built. It had previously been a Prostreet car with a pump gas Barton 528 Hemi, that day they had an Indy bathtub-style crossram intake on it and said they were going to run it in NSS. A few weeks later we were at C-Bus for the Classic and the Bales' were there. Back then the Hemi guys were very particular about the class rules, and we were pitted down by the tech shed and noticed that Don had drawn a crowd at the tech line. It seems that some of the purists did not like the intake, which was legal for NHRA SS but not specifically banned or accepted for NSS. I don't remember if JJ or the tech guys decided that he was legal, and we went on from there.

They used to run heads-up on Saturday in the Hemi classes, Bales car only ran 10.0 with the low compression motor, and I think OutlawSSAA had the field covered by about 1/2 a second and easily won that day. Then they called us up for the no-box gambler, back then at C-Bus they would get over 150 cars. I went out early, but Don was on a roll and made it down to the last few cars, only to find his battery was very weak when he went to the lanes. I ended up riding back to the Bales camp on the back of a Moped, then went back to the lanes riding backwards with one hand grasping a large wheeled generator and the other hand holding on for life onto the seat frame.

We got Don started well enough to make it thru the last rounds and into the final with 440Jim. Now Jim was running 9.70's and was killing the tree all day off the footbrake. They pull out for the final round and Don's car stalls after the burnout. It won't start at first but then he holds the pedal down and it slowly begins to fire. I was half wanting to run away, thinking the fuel in the intake might explode, but it came to life and they went to the starting line. 440Jim waited like a gentleman in the other lane until the Cuda came back to life. I remember Don won a close final, maybe Jim can chime in with the details about the RT's and MOV.

The next day the Hemi cars ran a dial-in eliminator, and Don won again. He was pretty pumped up about winning 2 races on the weekend after they argued about letting him run at all. If any of this is wrong I will gladly read any other details of what happened, post away.

Edit: It was the bathtub style intake, not the tunnel ram. The carbs are offset a very slight amount.

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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: cgall] #1566397
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Neat story. The Car must have been the red one. I have a pic but I can't get it to post. I'll talk to him today and get "the rest of the story". I think it was in 05.

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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: Frito] #1566398
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Frito I think the car was purple with flames.

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: BigFish69] #1566399
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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: cgall] #1566400
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This one? Don remembers the story well and says your are very accurate. He still has both trophys from that day. He said it was June, 05. Now to get him back out there.

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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: THE GLASS MAN] #1566401
02/10/14 12:13 PM
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Jeff, is this event open to all Chrysler Powered vehicles, such as ,Chrysler powered Willys ---Chrysler powered Anglias---Chrysler Powered Maverics ---Chrysler powered Pontiac Trans Ams, etc. Maybe you should have a "GASSER", class.




We do have a GASSER class! The Mexican Cantina and Grille will be sponsoring the "MCG Race for the Can."

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: sixpackjeff] #1566402
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I always liked running at Columbus. I guess I'm going to have to make my way down there. Any testing on Friday? It says N/SS class eliminations and Run offs Saturday. Is the all classes run N/SS race Sunday? Do all FX classes run together on Saturday or are they split AAA,AA,A,B,and C?
Thanks Doug

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: BigFish69] #1566403
02/10/14 02:45 PM
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Awesome - I'm hoping that CC can put a series back together. I would do Michigan(Milan or Martin), Indy and maybe even something in Pennsylvania. I also hope that CC can get Norwalk back at some point. My home track; Kil-Kare would also be great. I have not put an effort into running a Mopar series since CC disbanded - probably don't need to elaborate on why either(lol).

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: dvw] #1566404
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I always liked running at Columbus. I guess I'm going to have to make my way down there. Any testing on Friday? It says N/SS class eliminations and Run offs Saturday. Is the all classes run N/SS race Sunday? Do all FX classes run together on Saturday or are they split AAA,AA,A,B,and C?
Thanks Doug




Friday we'll have open testing from 5pm to 10pm. The entire NSS program will be run on Saturday in order to keep your travel costs down. NSS racers can camp for free Saturday night and buy a Pro ET tech card for Sunday if they's like. All NSS classes will be split out separately and run for trophy, AAA, A, etc.

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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: sixpackjeff] #1566405
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I always liked running at Columbus. I guess I'm going to have to make my way down there. Any testing on Friday? It says N/SS class eliminations and Run offs Saturday. Is the all classes run N/SS race Sunday? Do all FX classes run together on Saturday or are they split AAA,AA,A,B,and C?
Thanks Doug




Friday we'll have open testing from 5pm to 10pm. The entire NSS program will be run on Saturday in order to keep your travel costs down. NSS racers can camp for free Saturday night and buy a Pro ET tech card for Sunday if they's like. All NSS classes will be split out separately and run for trophy, AAA, A, etc.





Wait so do we run class Friday? Or are we going to run class and then the eliminator all on Saturday?

Casey

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: Whompin_Wedge] #1566406
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I always liked running at Columbus. I guess I'm going to have to make my way down there. Any testing on Friday? It says N/SS class eliminations and Run offs Saturday. Is the all classes run N/SS race Sunday? Do all FX classes run together on Saturday or are they split AAA,AA,A,B,and C?
Thanks Doug




Friday we'll have open testing from 5pm to 10pm. The entire NSS program will be run on Saturday in order to keep your travel costs down. NSS racers can camp for free Saturday night and buy a Pro ET tech card for Sunday if they's like. All NSS classes will be split out separately and run for trophy, AAA, A, etc.





Wait so do we run class Friday? Or are we going to run class and then the eliminator all on Saturday?

Casey




There is no class on Friday, just open Test & Tune for fun. The entire NSS program will be spread throughout the day on Saturday. You'll have plenty of time for time trials.

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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: old yeller] #1566407
02/16/14 02:02 PM
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Jeff....Is the Gen 111 HEMI Shootout a brkt race or a Heads up race?




The Gen III event will be a bracket race. BTW Roger and Randy Lindamood will be there with their new Challenger!

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Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: sixpackjeff] #1566408
02/16/14 07:15 PM
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From past experience Friday night test/tune is worthless if the track is running the show [little to no track prep] and at that date evening temps will require track prep. As for n/ss to try to run time trials,class,and eliminations all in one day seems like it will be to much of a rush.

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: wrightracing] #1566409
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I ran Jeff's race last year at Tri State, same format, Hemi's vs Wedge's with class run off's, no problems there. I am sure Trails starting line will be MUCH better than Tri State's.
Should be a good time.
Let's hope this will be a start of new Mopar series in the Midwest. We need all the Mopar events we can get.

Re: Mopar Race at National Trail Raceway [Re: nss guy] #1566410
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I have supported all of Jeff's events, and will continue to do so, just being honest which is what has kept other series from being successful. I look for this race to have a big car count and would like to see a three day race like it was in the past. I agree starting line should be MUCH better than Tri State, but NSS has never had a one day and done especially if car count is big.

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