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528 hemi 1/4 mile times #1564477 01/17/14 01:51 AM 01/17/14 01:51 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa 73cuda340 OP super stock
73cuda340 OP super stock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa	Does anybody have times for their 528 hemis and what the combos are? I have Ray Barton all aluminum 528 that I just put in my cuda and am trying to get a idea of the average times that people are getting with them. 1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip, (JA5) Silver Frost Metallic 1973 Challenger Rallye 340 1985 W150 Power Ram prospector 1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 73cuda340] #1564478 01/17/14 02:55 AM 01/17/14 02:55 AM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 mogadore ohio 44260 R racingblues1426 member
racingblues1426 member R Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 49 mogadore ohio 44260	need alot more info on your car to be able to determine what it will run. Remember this: It will run as fast as your wallet is stuffed with 100's. What did the motor dyno? What trans and rear ratio? What size tires? What does the car weigh? A 528 in a good B body will run 9.30s.

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 73cuda340] #1564479 01/17/14 11:41 AM 01/17/14 11:41 AM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	What did the motor dyno? I have a Ray Barton built 528 in my 71 Cuda. The car is very heavy 3950 lbs. I've run a best time of 9.88 @ 141 mph. If I work on the 60 ft times I should be able to run 9.50's or 60's. Not all of Ray's 528's are built the same. Mine is a Mopar performance mega block and a pump gas motor with only 10.4 compression. High compression could give me almost another 100 hp. You are going to be at a disadvantage with a stick shift and high gears but you still should be able to get into the 10's if you can hook it up.

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: racingblues1426] #1564480 01/17/14 11:52 AM 01/17/14 11:52 AM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa 73cuda340 OP super stock
73cuda340 OP super stock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa	Quote: need alot more info on your car to be able to determine what it will run. Remember this: It will run as fast as your wallet is stuffed with 100's. What did the motor dyno? What trans and rear ratio? What size tires? What does the car weigh? A 528 in a good B body will run 9.30s. I meant to post the specs for my car, I guess I forgot. My motor dynoed at 700hp and 620 torque. Hemi 4 speed, 3:54 dana 6, 28 x 12.50 Mickey Thompson drag radials and caltracs on the car. The motor is about as light as my 340 was and other than the subframe connectors and caltracs there isn't any extra weight added to the car so I'm going to guess the car is in the 3400-3500 area; but I haven't got the car out to weigh it yet. 1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip, (JA5) Silver Frost Metallic 1973 Challenger Rallye 340 1985 W150 Power Ram prospector 1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 73cuda340] #1564481 01/17/14 12:15 PM 01/17/14 12:15 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	Do you have a roll bar in the car? It is most likely closer to 3700 lbs with you in the car. You are most likely going to start out in the low 11's until you start to get it sorted out. But you should be able to get the car in the high 10's depending on how well you shift. The stick shift with 3.54 gears will hold you back. Where did you motor make peak horsepower?

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: DodgeCharger] #1564482 01/17/14 12:20 PM 01/17/14 12:20 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa 73cuda340 OP super stock
73cuda340 OP super stock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa	Quote: Do you have a roll bar in the car? It is most likely closer to 3700 lbs with you in the car. You are most likely going to start out in the low 11's until you start to get it sorted out. But you should be able to get the car in the high 10's depending on how well you shift. The stick shift with 3.54 gears will hold you back. Where did you motor make peak horsepower? No roll bar in the car and the motor made peak horsepower at 6400 and peak torque at 5200. 1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip, (JA5) Silver Frost Metallic 1973 Challenger Rallye 340 1985 W150 Power Ram prospector 1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 73cuda340] #1564483 01/17/14 12:43 PM 01/17/14 12:43 PM
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DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	You will need a bar. I would be very surprised if the car runs slower than 11.49 et.

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: DodgeCharger] #1564484 01/17/14 01:23 PM 01/17/14 01:23 PM
Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa D DusterDave top fuel
DusterDave top fuel D Joined: Jul 2010 Posts: 1,845 Tampa	I've run 9.17 @ 147mph with a 528 Hemi in a 3,200 lb. A-body. Gone to the dark side with an LS3 powered '57 Chevy 210

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: DusterDave] #1564485 01/17/14 01:31 PM 01/17/14 01:31 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,385 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,385 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	Quote: I've run 9.17 @ 147mph with a 528 Hemi in a 3,200 lb. A-body. Street tires and mufflers too if I remember right... '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: Dragula] #1564486 01/17/14 01:39 PM 01/17/14 01:39 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,357 Marion, South Carolina [><] an8sec70cuda I Live Here
an8sec70cuda I Live Here Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 13,357 Marion, South Carolina [><]	Quote: Quote: I've run 9.17 @ 147mph with a 528 Hemi in a 3,200 lb. A-body. Street tires and mufflers too if I remember right... Don't forget the supercharger. CHIP '70 hemicuda, 575" Hemi, 727, Dana 60 '69 road runner, 440-6, 18 spline 4 speed, Dana 60 '71 Demon, 340, low gear 904, 8.75 '73 Chrysler New Yorker, 440, 727, 8.75 '90 Chevy 454SS Silverado, 476" BBC, TH400, 14 bolt '06 GMC 2500HD LBZ Duramax

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 73cuda340] #1564487 01/17/14 02:48 PM 01/17/14 02:48 PM
Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington T Triple Threat master
Triple Threat master T Joined: Jan 2003 Posts: 6,266 Renton Washington	The OP's car is clearly a street toy and is not prepped for real race duty. Bolting on some sticky tires and adding cal tracs aren't gonna be enough to hook that thing. As stated, with those power numbers, you should have no problem running well below the 11.49 cut off, which will lead to you being booted from the track for no rollbar, no harnesses etc. A 700 HP hemi in a good drag car, will run well into the 9's @ 140mph+ Last edited by Triple Threat; 01/17/14 02:48 PM. -Dustin 67 Dart, 9 second, 392" G3 Hemi 68 Barracuda 340 F/SA

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: an8sec70cuda] #1564488 01/17/14 02:57 PM 01/17/14 02:57 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	A supercharged hemi is a whole different animal. I've seen supercharger hemi's on Bartons dyno making 1500 hp. A local guy has a Challenger with a Barton hemi under the hood. He's a regular at car shows. I don't remember the cubic inch but it made 650 hp on the dyno. He displays the dyno sheets and his time slips in the window at the car shows. The car ran around 11.50's in the 1/4 mile. That was with a pair of slicks and a Pro trans automatic transmission. He is happy with the performance but 11.50's is kind of slow for 650 hp. The car should have been able to at least get into the 10's. If Barton dyno'd the motor I'm sure you have the horsepower but getting the car down the track is a whole different ball game. I wasted years trying to get my car to ET with SS springs but this year I switched to Caltracs and made an instant improvement and then the final addition was double adjustable rear shocks. Until I threw away the Rancho shocks and switched to double adjustables I could not get the car to ET with the drag radials. It will take time to figure out what your combination needs.

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: Triple Threat] #1564489 01/17/14 03:14 PM 01/17/14 03:14 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	Quote: The OP's car is clearly a street toy and is not prepped for real race duty. Bolting on some sticky tires and adding cal tracs aren't gonna be enough to hook that thing. As stated, with those power numbers, you should have no problem running well below the 11.49 cut off, which will lead to you being booted from the track for no rollbar, no harnesses etc. A 700 HP hemi in a good drag car, will run well into the 9's @ 140mph+ Maybe in a light A Body but in a heavy (3700) E body 700 hp only gets you into the low 10's

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: DodgeCharger] #1564490 01/17/14 03:30 PM 01/17/14 03:30 PM
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Biginchmopar pro stock Joined: Nov 2010 Posts: 1,397 Carson City, Nevada	Sounds real close to my combo in my street car and I would say high to mid 10's. Good luck!

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: DodgeCharger] #1564491 01/17/14 03:46 PM 01/17/14 03:46 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa 73cuda340 OP super stock
73cuda340 OP super stock Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,169 clarks summit pa	Quote: What did the motor dyno? I have a Ray Barton built 528 in my 71 Cuda. The car is very heavy 3950 lbs. I've run a best time of 9.88 @ 141 mph. If I work on the 60 ft times I should be able to run 9.50's or 60's. Not all of Ray's 528's are built the same. Mine is a Mopar performance mega block and a pump gas motor with only 10.4 compression. High compression could give me almost another 100 hp. You are going to be at a disadvantage with a stick shift and high gears but you still should be able to get into the 10's if you can hook it up. How much did yours dnyo at and what is your combo if you don't mind me asking? 1973 Cuda 528 all aluminum Hemi, 4 speed, 3.23 Sure-Grip, (JA5) Silver Frost Metallic 1973 Challenger Rallye 340 1985 W150 Power Ram prospector 1986 Camaro IROC-Z 305 tpi

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 73cuda340] #1564492 01/17/14 04:20 PM 01/17/14 04:20 PM
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DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	My motor dyno'd at 850hp @ 7200 rpm's. I have a bullet roller cam ported stage V heads and a Barton single 4 barrel intake. I'm running a Pro systems dominator. I have a lot of un-necessary stuff done to it for strength but mostly the additional power is coming from the cam and ported heads over the Krate motor 528. The cam is over .700 lift. but the car drives and idles nice. My wife could drive it to work.

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 73cuda340] #1564493 01/17/14 04:34 PM 01/17/14 04:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	Your biggest problem to getting a good ET will be getting the car to hook with out the motor falling on its face with the 3.54 gears and the drag radials. If you launch the rpm's to high the drag radials will go up in smoke and they don't recover well. If you launch the rpm's to low the motor will fall on its face. You would be better with a set of bias ply slicks or maybe ET Streets. When you spin they will recover pretty quickly keeping your rpm's in you power band.

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: DodgeCharger] #1564494 01/17/14 05:59 PM 01/17/14 05:59 PM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,385 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY Dragula I Live Here
Dragula I Live Here Joined: May 2004 Posts: 12,385 Taxes & Virus's R-US, NY	My small pump gas 484 Hemi has gone 10.84/6.80 with my street tires. I had a miss in the ignition all summer, and I am kinda PO'd I couldn't find it and get a good run all year..Also kinda PO'd when I researched the cam its a chevy grind cause I thought my mid range seemed light... I figure with some work, 10.50's should be in my future...But we will see. When I had a real cam in the engine and injection on it, it made a bunch more Hp and I was hoping for 9's but my valve train let go first... '70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9) '66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage '71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: DodgeCharger] #1564495 01/17/14 06:13 PM 01/17/14 06:13 PM
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70satelliteguy pro stock 7 Joined: Jul 2005 Posts: 1,301 Penna	"High compression could give me almost another 100 hp." Not trying to be a wise guy but are you sure about this Dodgecharger? Mike

Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times [Re: 70satelliteguy] #1564496 01/17/14 07:52 PM 01/17/14 07:52 PM
Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa DodgeCharger master
DodgeCharger master Joined: Dec 2004 Posts: 2,703 Mohnton, Pa	I've always heard about 10% more horsepower with a race gas high compression motor. In my case that would be about 85 horsepower. At the ET I'm running that would only give me 2 to 3 tenths better ET. Not a huge difference for the price of race gas.

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