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528 hemi 1/4 mile times
Posted By: 73cuda340
528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 05:51 AM
Does anybody have times for their 528 hemis and what the combos are? I have Ray Barton all aluminum 528 that I just put in my cuda and am trying to get a idea of the average times that people are getting with them.
need alot more info on your car to be able to determine what it will run. Remember this: It will run as fast as your wallet is stuffed with 100's. What did the motor dyno? What trans and rear ratio? What size tires? What does the car weigh? A 528 in a good B body will run 9.30s.
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 03:41 PM
What did the motor dyno? I have a Ray Barton built 528 in my 71 Cuda. The car is very heavy 3950 lbs. I've run a best time of 9.88 @ 141 mph. If I work on the 60 ft times I should be able to run 9.50's or 60's.
Not all of Ray's 528's are built the same. Mine is a Mopar performance mega block and a pump gas motor with only 10.4 compression. High compression could give me almost another 100 hp.
You are going to be at a disadvantage with a stick shift and high gears but you still should be able to get into the 10's if you can hook it up.
Posted By: 73cuda340
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 03:52 PM
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need alot more info on your car to be able to determine what it will run. Remember this: It will run as fast as your wallet is stuffed with 100's. What did the motor dyno? What trans and rear ratio? What size tires? What does the car weigh? A 528 in a good B body will run 9.30s.
I meant to post the specs for my car, I guess I forgot. My motor dynoed at 700hp and 620 torque. Hemi 4 speed, 3:54 dana 6, 28 x 12.50 Mickey Thompson drag radials and caltracs on the car. The motor is about as light as my 340 was and other than the subframe connectors and caltracs there isn't any extra weight added to the car so I'm going to guess the car is in the 3400-3500 area; but I haven't got the car out to weigh it yet.
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 04:15 PM
Do you have a roll bar in the car? It is most likely closer to 3700 lbs with you in the car. You are most likely going to start out in the low 11's until you start to get it sorted out. But you should be able to get the car in the high 10's depending on how well you shift. The stick shift with 3.54 gears will hold you back. Where did you motor make peak horsepower?
Posted By: 73cuda340
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 04:20 PM
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Do you have a roll bar in the car? It is most likely closer to 3700 lbs with you in the car. You are most likely going to start out in the low 11's until you start to get it sorted out. But you should be able to get the car in the high 10's depending on how well you shift. The stick shift with 3.54 gears will hold you back. Where did you motor make peak horsepower?
No roll bar in the car and the motor made peak horsepower at 6400 and peak torque at 5200.
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 04:43 PM
You will need a bar. I would be very surprised if the car runs slower than 11.49 et.
Posted By: DusterDave
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 05:23 PM
I've run 9.17 @ 147mph with a 528 Hemi in a 3,200 lb. A-body.
Posted By: Dragula
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 05:31 PM
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I've run 9.17 @ 147mph with a 528 Hemi in a 3,200 lb. A-body.
Street tires and mufflers too if I remember right...
Posted By: an8sec70cuda
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 05:39 PM
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I've run 9.17 @ 147mph with a 528 Hemi in a 3,200 lb. A-body.
Street tires and mufflers too if I remember right...
Don't forget the supercharger.
Posted By: Triple Threat
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 06:48 PM
The OP's car is clearly a street toy and is not prepped for real race duty. Bolting on some sticky tires and adding cal tracs aren't gonna be enough to hook that thing.
As stated, with those power numbers, you should have no problem running well below the 11.49 cut off, which will lead to you being booted from the track for no rollbar, no harnesses etc.
A 700 HP hemi in a good drag car, will run well into the 9's @ 140mph+
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 06:57 PM
A supercharged hemi is a whole different animal. I've seen supercharger hemi's on Bartons dyno making 1500 hp.
A local guy has a Challenger with a Barton hemi under the hood. He's a regular at car shows. I don't remember the cubic inch but it made 650 hp on the dyno. He displays the dyno sheets and his time slips in the window at the car shows. The car ran around 11.50's in the 1/4 mile. That was with a pair of slicks and a Pro trans automatic transmission.
He is happy with the performance but 11.50's is kind of slow for 650 hp.
The car should have been able to at least get into the 10's.
If Barton dyno'd the motor I'm sure you have the horsepower but getting the car down the track is a whole different ball game.
I wasted years trying to get my car to ET with SS springs but this year I switched to Caltracs and made an instant improvement and then the final addition was double adjustable rear shocks. Until I threw away the Rancho shocks and switched to double adjustables I could not get the car to ET with the drag radials. It will take time to figure out what your combination needs.
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 07:14 PM
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The OP's car is clearly a street toy and is not prepped for real race duty. Bolting on some sticky tires and adding cal tracs aren't gonna be enough to hook that thing.
As stated, with those power numbers, you should have no problem running well below the 11.49 cut off, which will lead to you being booted from the track for no rollbar, no harnesses etc.
A 700 HP hemi in a good drag car, will run well into the 9's @ 140mph+
Maybe in a light A Body but in a heavy (3700) E body 700 hp only gets you into the low 10's
Posted By: Biginchmopar
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 07:30 PM
Sounds real close to my combo in my street car and I would say high to mid 10's.
Good luck!
Posted By: 73cuda340
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 07:46 PM
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What did the motor dyno? I have a Ray Barton built 528 in my 71 Cuda. The car is very heavy 3950 lbs. I've run a best time of 9.88 @ 141 mph. If I work on the 60 ft times I should be able to run 9.50's or 60's.
Not all of Ray's 528's are built the same. Mine is a Mopar performance mega block and a pump gas motor with only 10.4 compression. High compression could give me almost another 100 hp.
You are going to be at a disadvantage with a stick shift and high gears but you still should be able to get into the 10's if you can hook it up.
How much did yours dnyo at and what is your combo if you don't mind me asking?
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 08:20 PM
My motor dyno'd at 850hp @ 7200 rpm's. I have a bullet roller cam ported stage V heads and a Barton single 4 barrel intake. I'm running a Pro systems dominator.
I have a lot of un-necessary stuff done to it for strength but mostly the additional power is coming from the cam and ported heads over the Krate motor 528.
The cam is over .700 lift. but the car drives and idles nice. My wife could drive it to work.
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 08:34 PM
Your biggest problem to getting a good ET will be getting the car to hook with out the motor falling on its face with the 3.54 gears and the drag radials. If you launch the rpm's to high the drag radials will go up in smoke and they don't recover well. If you launch the rpm's to low the motor will fall on its face.
You would be better with a set of bias ply slicks or maybe ET Streets. When you spin they will recover pretty quickly keeping your rpm's in you power band.
Posted By: Dragula
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 09:59 PM
My small pump gas 484 Hemi has gone 10.84/6.80 with my street tires. I had a miss in the ignition all summer, and I am kinda PO'd I couldn't find it and get a good run all year..Also kinda PO'd when I researched the cam its a chevy grind cause I thought my mid range seemed light...
I figure with some work, 10.50's should be in my future...But we will see. When I had a real cam in the engine and injection on it, it made a bunch more Hp and I was hoping for 9's but my valve train let go first...
Posted By: 70satelliteguy
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 10:13 PM
"High compression could give me almost another 100 hp."
Not trying to be a wise guy but are you sure about this Dodgecharger?
Mike
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/17/14 11:52 PM
I've always heard about 10% more horsepower with a race gas high compression motor. In my case that would be about 85 horsepower. At the ET I'm running that would only give me 2 to 3 tenths better ET.
Not a huge difference for the price of race gas.
Posted By: 73cuda340
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/20/14 06:36 AM
If I could get my combo to get me into the 10's with some tweaking and fine tuning I would be happy.
Posted By: 383man
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/20/14 07:56 AM
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My small pump gas 484 Hemi has gone 10.84/6.80 with my street tires. I had a miss in the ignition all summer, and I am kinda PO'd I couldn't find it and get a good run all year..Also kinda PO'd when I researched the cam its a chevy grind cause I thought my mid range seemed light...
I figure with some work, 10.50's should be in my future...But we will see. When I had a real cam in the engine and injection on it, it made a bunch more Hp and I was hoping for 9's but my valve train let go first...
Small 484 Hemi. Man how times have changed from the 70's as I dont remember anybody running strokers back then and now just about everyone I know runs a stroker. 
Nice running little Hemi. 
Ron
Posted By: Dragula
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/20/14 01:31 PM
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My small pump gas 484 Hemi has gone 10.84/6.80 with my street tires. I had a miss in the ignition all summer, and I am kinda PO'd I couldn't find it and get a good run all year..Also kinda PO'd when I researched the cam its a chevy grind cause I thought my mid range seemed light...
I figure with some work, 10.50's should be in my future...But we will see. When I had a real cam in the engine and injection on it, it made a bunch more Hp and I was hoping for 9's but my valve train let go first...
Small 484 Hemi. Man how times have changed from the 70's as I dont remember anybody running strokers back then and now just about everyone I know runs a stroker. Nice running little Hemi. Ron
Well most of the people on here own a 572 or bigger...I will put my 484 into the sub 10.50's this year. I might have found the miss. I don't feel bad as we had a guy here with a street car and a 528 Hemi and it only went 11.60's...It had dual carbs and fouled out plugs pretty bad all the time.
Posted By: DodgeCharger
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/20/14 05:44 PM
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My small pump gas 484 Hemi has gone 10.84/6.80 with my street tires. I had a miss in the ignition all summer, and I am kinda PO'd I couldn't find it and get a good run all year..Also kinda PO'd when I researched the cam its a chevy grind cause I thought my mid range seemed light...
I figure with some work, 10.50's should be in my future...But we will see. When I had a real cam in the engine and injection on it, it made a bunch more Hp and I was hoping for 9's but my valve train let go first...
Small 484 Hemi. Man how times have changed from the 70's as I dont remember anybody running strokers back then and now just about everyone I know runs a stroker. Nice running little Hemi. Ron
Well most of the people on here own a 572 or bigger...I will put my 484 into the sub 10.50's this year. I might have found the miss. I don't feel bad as we had a guy here with a street car and a 528 Hemi and it only went 11.60's...It had dual carbs and fouled out plugs pretty bad all the time.
If you are getting into the 10's I wouldn't feel bad either. I've seen guys with 528 hemi crate motors that couldn't get into the 11's.
My 440 with basically stock heads ran better than that back in the 80's in a 70 Cuda.
Posted By: Dragula
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/20/14 06:49 PM
10.50's sounds great until you read guys going 9.30's with one with a bigger bore..I could change cams and go from the very mild .590 solid back to a .740 roller if I want to run 9's, but streeting it will kill the valve train. If I could run the Barton valve train, then maybe we would move up in cam. Oiling the top end can be an issue.
Posted By: 383man
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/20/14 07:26 PM
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My small pump gas 484 Hemi has gone 10.84/6.80 with my street tires. I had a miss in the ignition all summer, and I am kinda PO'd I couldn't find it and get a good run all year..Also kinda PO'd when I researched the cam its a chevy grind cause I thought my mid range seemed light...
I figure with some work, 10.50's should be in my future...But we will see. When I had a real cam in the engine and injection on it, it made a bunch more Hp and I was hoping for 9's but my valve train let go first...
Small 484 Hemi. Man how times have changed from the 70's as I dont remember anybody running strokers back then and now just about everyone I know runs a stroker. Nice running little Hemi. Ron
Well most of the people on here own a 572 or bigger...I will put my 484 into the sub 10.50's this year. I might have found the miss. I don't feel bad as we had a guy here with a street car and a 528 Hemi and it only went 11.60's...It had dual carbs and fouled out plugs pretty bad all the time.
Thats what I meant that a 484 ci eng is small by todays standards of the strokers we see today. But in the 70's we would have considered it a big eng. I did not mean to offend you in any way as even my 493 is a small stroker out there today. Ron
Posted By: Dragula
Re: 528 hemi 1/4 mile times - 01/20/14 09:12 PM
Don't worry about it...It runs ok for what it is, but there is so much more potential in it. Streeting it kills valve train parts, but it was faster.
I have been contemplating going 572 or 604, but then I have a bottom end that is bullet proff I need to sell. Also the car is only legal to 10.0