Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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(1) drawfile (A)the stat housing & (B) the intake or pump housing flat with a wide fine file & use a rag to keep filings out of (B). (2) gasket sprayed with Permatex 99MA "high tack" the red stuff in the spray can. Goes on light/even & is extremely tacky & seals very well. (3) see #1 & if it's a chrome housing get the chrome off of there & people have good luck with the NAPA iron stat housings
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
[Re: RapidRobert]
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That is coming up as an ALL-PURPOSE SPRAY.
"Product ID : 99MA - Category : Shop Supplies - Permatex PERMATEX® Spray Adhesive•Dries clear with superior bonding strength. •For permanent or repositionable applications. •Unique formula resists water, humidity. •Applications include porous and non-porous materials. •Level 3
Suggested Applications: •Excels at attaching upholstery cloth, carpeting, floor mats, insulation, kick and silencer pads to metal, wood or KB board"
After researching further, I believe you mean:
Permatex Copper Spray-A-Gasket Hi-Temp Adhesive Sealant (10 oz)..... Fast-drying, metallic copper sealant helps dissipate heat, prevents gasket burnout and improves heat transfer. The sealant also fills minor surface irregularities, hot spots and surface imperfections and seals instantly. The sealant can handle temperatures ranging from -50°F to 500°F and resists all types of automotive fluids, especially gasoline.
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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01/10/14 03:10 PM
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I have never had a thermostat housing that did not leak !! No matter what I tried ! Some would seap a tiny bit, but there was never a totaly dry unit. That is until I tried this unit from Terry's Auto Lab : http://www.terrysautolab.com/Sure it is not cheap, but I DO NOT have a single leak on the car it is installed in !!! I really feel it is worth the $$ . . . Good luck with yours . . . Cheers Mark
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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I have never had a thermostat housing that did not leak !! No matter what I tried ! Some would seap a tiny bit, but there was never a totaly dry unit. That is until I tried this unit from Terry's Auto Lab :
http://www.terrysautolab.com/
Sure it is not cheap, but I DO NOT have a single leak on the car it is installed in !!! I really feel it is worth the $$ . . .
Good luck with yours . . .
Cheers
Mark
Mark
Thanks for the idea but that is what I am removing. Maybe not the "exact" part you mentioned. I want the OEM look for now.
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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The factory put millions of thermostat housings on millions of water pumps/intake with nothing more than a paper gasket. Either your housing is junk or the mating surface on the water pump/intake is messed up.
If you NEED anything other than a paper gasket to seal then fix the problem. If you feel you need anything else for "peace of mind" then fine, but it's not the problem. It's like taking aspirin because you have a nail in your head.
They say there are no such thing as a stupid question. They say there is always the exception that proves the rule. Don't be the exception.
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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01/10/14 03:40 PM
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I used just paper for years.Then it seems the gaskets got cheaper.I installed thousands at work in 30 years.Water pumps also.I use the brown Permatex in the tube.Just a light coat.They seal.My 440 has the dreaded chrome housing.It never leaks and has been on for 12 years.Just use the non hardening stuff.When you do them for a living you dont want one coming back for a leak.Rocky
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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01/10/14 05:05 PM
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It is not the same as the one listed from Terry's . . . Terry has double o-ring seal, and utilizes the 1980's up smaller thermostat. That being said, funny how the 1980's up, used a metal housing that did not leak any where like the aluminum one. Over the years, I have just used sand paper to ensure the aluminum housing was flat, a paper gasket and silicone sealant. Would usually seal ok, but then have slight seapage over time . . . not enough to lose coolant, but enough to make things look yucky. With unit from Terry's you have a lower housing with o-ring seal, and then upper (where smaller tstat fits) with o-ring seal. Quote:
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I have never had a thermostat housing that did not leak !! No matter what I tried ! Some would seap a tiny bit, but there was never a totaly dry unit. That is until I tried this unit from Terry's Auto Lab :
http://www.terrysautolab.com/
Sure it is not cheap, but I DO NOT have a single leak on the car it is installed in !!! I really feel it is worth the $$ . . .
Good luck with yours . . .
Cheers
Mark
Mark
Thanks for the idea but that is what I am removing. Maybe not the "exact" part you mentioned. I want the OEM look for now.
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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The factory put millions of thermostat housings on millions of water pumps/intake with nothing more than a paper gasket. Either your housing is junk or the mating surface on the water pump/intake is messed up.
Bullseye...
Got 20+ years on an OEM thermostat housing, over an OEM pump housing, with a paper gasket...
Dry as a bone...
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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Can we use the Permatex #2 on the Water Neck and gasket? I put on some Ultra Copper a week ago and it still hasn't dried...Must have been a bad tube...I need to take it off and clean it up...Wondering what i should put on this time around
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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01/12/14 10:30 AM
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Pyper if the permatex is the non hardening type thats what I use.I never remember the number.I just walk in and get a tube thats white and says non hardening.Just a light cost on both sides of the gasket.Ive seen too many siliconed ones that leak.Most are because people think you need a 1/2 inch to seal.Rocky
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Re: Installing an OEM Thermostat Housing.
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01/12/14 11:59 AM
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Quote:
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The factory put millions of thermostat housings on millions of water pumps/intake with nothing more than a paper gasket. Either your housing is junk or the mating surface on the water pump/intake is messed up.
Bullseye...
Got 20+ years on an OEM thermostat housing, over an OEM pump housing, with a paper gasket...
Dry as a bone...
And if you find one that does leak,clean the top of the water pump housing,run the thermostat housing on a belt sander,use a good paper gasket and don't over tighten and it won't leak.I've been doing it that way since I've owned my first car and never used a drop of sealer of any kind.
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