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72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 #155513
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OK is there any reasoning to which cars got what?

I know the lower performance cars usually received an 8 1/4

but I have seen 73 -74 400 / 440 cars with 8 3/4 and 9 1/4

Any logic to what got what or just what the plant had on hand?


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Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: hemi_harvester] #155514
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340 cars had 8 3/4

Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: mopars4ever] #155515
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HP 4-bbl cars got the 8.75 and all 2-bbl cars got the 8.25
I myself have never seen a 9.25 in a 71-4B from the factory.


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Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: moparmarks] #155516
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HP 4-bbl cars got the 8.75 and all 2-bbl cars got the 8.25
I myself have never seen a 9.25 in a 71-4B from the factory.





I have seen 2 both 74 GTXs


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Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: hemi_harvester] #155517
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Im under the impression that the 8.75 was last used in 73. Although I make no claim that Im knowledgeable on such topics.

My 73 340 Charger has/had the 8.75

Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: moparmarks] #155518
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I myself have never seen a 9.25 in a 71-4B from the factory.




they are at least listed on the axle guide... but is true, I never have seen them either


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Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: NachoRT74] #155519
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The only early '70s B-body 9 1/4" rear I noticed was in a '74 400 HP automatic Charger.

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I have one NOS down here, with suregrip conekind, but is just teh housing with carrier. no axles, cover, brake lines or anything


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The HP and some other big cars were supposed to get the 8-3/4 through the early part of 74. The later part of 74 they dropped the 8-3/4 for the 9-1/4.

The light duty B bodies were supposed to get the 8-1/4.

Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 [Re: IMGTX] #155522
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My 74 Road Runner was built in December '73 and has an 8 3/4.

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How did you come up with all that NOS drivetrain stuff?

I have an NOS C-body 9.25" (Dana 53) housing.

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Quote:

The HP and some other big cars were supposed to get the 8-3/4 through the early part of 74. The later part of 74 they dropped the 8-3/4 for the 9-1/4.

The light duty B bodies were supposed to get the 8-1/4.




You sir, are CORRECT!
The 8 3/4 went away in 74 (at some point) and the 9 1/4" replaced it. I have the 73/4 parts manual around here somewhere...If I can find the changeover date, I'll post it back.

This is also true of Dodge trucks.

I am, however, curious as to what rear a late build 74 360 4spd Cuda/Challenger would have had.... I've never seen a 9 1/4" E-body rear.

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Quote:

How did you come up with all that NOS drivetrain stuff?

I have an NOS C-body 9.25" (Dana 53) housing.




Chrysler had assembly plants and dealers here , and some of them still have Old Stock.

actually they are still here, after a break for 13 years Chrysler left Venezuela ( 79-92 )

I got this housing with SG carrier thinking on upgrade my 8 3/4 because perches width is the same, just drum to drum width is a little bit shorter, about 1/2", but never found the axles or cover. Berings needs to be replaced since got some water on storaging and they are rusted.

as far I rememeber, gear ratio is 2.91 or so


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Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: IMGTX] #155526
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OK just curious, Would a 1975+ B-body 9.25 be bolt in for a 1974 B-body? Iso-mounts included? Sort of a retrofit as it were.
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The HP and some other big cars were supposed to get the 8-3/4 through the early part of 74. The later part of 74 they dropped the 8-3/4 for the 9-1/4.

The light duty B bodies were supposed to get the 8-1/4.



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I've heard of some 74 B's with a 9.25 but just have never seen one myself. Had a couple 74 HP Chargers and both had 8.75 but may have been early cars. Have had a few 74 trucks all with 8.75 rears.
Maybe they just used the 8.75 for the E's through out 74.
All 71/4B's 2-bbl cars both BB and SB and 6 cyl that I've owned had 8.25


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Re: 72 -74 B body rear axle Question 81/4 vs 8 3/4 vs 9 1/4 [Re: moparmarks] #155528
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I've a 73 Sat 400 Wagon with trailer pkge and 9.75 open.

I assume RK, WK, some wags, and tow packs would all be likely prospects.

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I used to have 2 survivor cars,a 73 Charger SE 400 2bbl auto with 3.23 8 3/4,and a 73 Rallye 400 HP auto with 3.55 8 3/4.


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I've got a 9.25 w/3.55's in mine, no idea if it's stock or not though. Anybody know why they switched from the dana to the 9.25? Cheaper I assume?

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I have a 9.25" in a 71 RR, came with the car when I got. I know its not factory...I THINK it came from a 75 Monaco dunno for certain. The fit is perfect though.

I pulled a rear sway bar out of a 75 B-car many years back, with ISO leaf plates, 9.25 rear also.

I didn't know the 9.25" was referred to as a Dana 53, however, I DID know the carrier's were Spicer units (hard miss the DIAMOND stamp). Thanks Dr. Diff for that little tid-bit.


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I've got a 9.25 w/3.55's in mine, no idea if it's stock or not though. Anybody know why they switched from the dana to the 9.25? Cheaper I assume?




There's a chance yours is a legit 74 B-body 9 1/4. As far as I know, they were available with either 3.21 or 3.55 Sure-grip rears. I don't think the 74's B-body 9-1/4" were produced with an open diff. :shruggy? They are not overly common...in ALL the 71-4 B-bodies I've seen in the last 21 years of messing with specifically these cars....I've seen 2 9-1/4" rear cars.


The Dana 60 was no longer used in passenger cars after 1972.
I'm guessing the 9-1/4" rear is cheaper to produce than the 8-3/4", hence it's eventual replacement.

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