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572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? #1554804
12/28/13 05:55 PM
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Havent posted here for awhile..but my W8 small block is going byebye..looking to get into something with a lot less maint and hassel at the track but still have some good power.

Looking at building 572 inch Hemi.I want to run E-85 something in the 850 to 900hp range with little street duty.I called Barton and priced the StageV big valve heads and the SR.On the block they recommended the cast world block..they said it was hit and miss on the aluminum.I would rather run the aluminum for the weight savings,but the Indy max block would work just don't know much about them.

Would like to know any thoughts good or bad anybody with similar combos?I am going to run the Barton shaft rockers and his Intake for sure.

Thanks


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Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554805
12/28/13 10:22 PM
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I built a all aluminum roots blowned(10:71 BDS blower ) KB street Hemi block(thier dry sleeves ) 499 C.I. (4.375x4.375)with a set of Dart cast aluminum water cooled heads, it had a EFI on a bug catcher hat, it made a little over 1100 HP on race gas with 17 lbs of boost . I built another smaller ,484 C.I., 4.250 bore x 4.375 stroke)C.I. blown street hemi motor with a new cast iron block with a set of Stage V ported, not big ports, aluminum heads and a 10:71 Littlefield blower with a pair of Carb. Shop Dominator blower carbs, it made 925 HP on CA pump gas at 7 lbs of boost and 1025 HP on 110 octane race gas with 12 lbs of boost I would buy another set of the Stage V heads and a KB Street Hemi block if you insist on using a a aluminum block for your build BTW, I like cast iron or Compact Graphite Iron blocks for my N/A builds


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Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554806
12/29/13 12:53 AM
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Built a 528 with Indy Maxx block and the 426-1 Legend heads. Fought the block the entire way, pushrods rubbing in the valley and oil drain back was horrible. A little porting on the OOTB heads and she did make 775 HP on 91 octane.

Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: LaRoy Engines] #1554807
12/29/13 02:16 AM
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Tell Ray to hook ya up with a KB block and Millennium heads.

Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554808
12/29/13 02:40 AM
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I will sell you one of my 700hp pump gas engines, so I can pick this one up:

http://www.racingjunk.com/Street/1820468...wSuperSize=true

Last edited by Dragula; 12/29/13 02:40 AM.

'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: jim sciortino] #1554809
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Tell Ray to hook ya up with a KB block and Millennium heads.




They told me KB blocks are 6 to 8 month wait..and I don't want to go crazy if I was I would get the M head


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Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554810
12/29/13 02:57 AM
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Cam change in my pump gas Hemi and its over 750hp....LMK..


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554811
12/29/13 03:29 AM
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Tell Ray to hook ya up with a KB block and Millennium heads.




They told me KB blocks are 6 to 8 month wait..and I don't want to go crazy if I was I would get the M head


That's way too long to wait for a stinkin' part.

Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: jim sciortino] #1554812
12/29/13 03:58 AM
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Call Keith at KB..He will tell you how far out shipment will be... Straight up !!


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Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: racerhog] #1554813
12/29/13 09:44 AM
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ive got stage V big valve heads from ray barton and a mopar 2003 steel block roller cam 606 cuin makin 880 -900 hp on pump gas drive it every day !!! i want to go aluminum block soon , block i have is 290 lbs bare !!!!!!!!! lookin at a indy i think KB would be the best choice though maybe ill order it now for 2016 build !!!!!!


606 hemi pump gas best 9.60 at 142mph on motor
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2007 hotrod mag pump gas drags runner up, roadkill nights dodge big tire winner 2018 2019 back to back
Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: 572charger] #1554814
12/29/13 10:08 AM
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Go as big as your budget allows. It really doesn't cost any more. My 605 is 10.4-1 and runs on pretty much anything you put in the tank. Heads are a bit small but it still makes 853hp@5800 and 818ftlbs@4800. I drive everywhere and IF I drive it real nice it can crack 10mpg. Dave

Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554815
12/29/13 11:09 AM
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Chris whats the goal your lookin for performance wise ? And the Alum block is a must weight wise 100% ,i agree especially in a abody.

Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: Dragula] #1554816
12/29/13 11:42 AM
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I will sell you one of my 700hp pump gas engines, so I can pick this one up:

http://www.racingjunk.com/Street/1820468...wSuperSize=true




I would buy this for sure. I bought my used motor from Tank Crosswhite. He has Tim build his motors with all the best parts. Why wait for parts and fight a new build when this is a proven motor.
Call Tim at FHO and ask him about this motor. He will answer all your questions. When i bought mine from Tank I called Tim and felt very comfortable buying it. Tim even gave me a build sheet for the motor. You cant build a motor this cheap.

Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: 572_HEMI_Cuda] #1554817
12/29/13 01:11 PM
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I talked to Tank ayear or so ago about a 572 he had for sale..and yes I seen that engine for sale on RJ.Would like to have a similar deal that 572 Charger runs but with a aluminum block.I want to run in the low nines without a problem,which I think should be a piece of cake.

I had a 572 wedge in the car back in 2001 and it would go 9.30's with a -1 head.

also looking at a F2 procharger deal also for hemi or even a wedge.


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Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554818
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Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554819
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I talked to Tank ayear or so ago about a 572 he had for sale..and yes I seen that engine for sale on RJ.Would like to have a similar deal that 572 Charger runs but with a aluminum block.I want to run in the low nines without a problem,which I think should be a piece of cake.

I had a 572 wedge in the car back in 2001 and it would go 9.30's with a -1 head.

also looking at a F2 procharger deal also for hemi or even a wedge.




Hemi heads outflow the -1 heads easily....Car will be faster at the same weight just based on that alone. An F2 even on an engine as small as my 484 will be 1400hp...kiss low 9's goodby, and say hello to 8's...The problem is packaging one of those into an engine bay...And the cost...$$$


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: Dragula] #1554820
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You going to have Uratchko do the Hemi, Chris?

Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: STEFF] #1554821
12/29/13 03:23 PM
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You going to have Uratchko do the Hemi, Chris?




yes sir!


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Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: FASTFISH420] #1554822
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You going to have Uratchko do the Hemi, Chris?




yes sir!




He does awesome work....$$$$$

Have you thought about a Predator head combo? Makes +70hp over the best Hemi heads out there...


'70 Cuda,...605 EFI Hemi Street Car (6.20 best pass, 1.33 60ft)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WYw6RA-k5Bk (6.25 at 108.75mph from inside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zQEb9uxFng (6.25 at 108mph from outside car)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCvfzsC4NgM (9.9)

'66 Barracuda AWB Stretched nose Blown 440 Car in build stage

'71 Duster Drag Car 400 Low Deck 512 best 6.002 at 115.44mph
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Znuo3jMUXTk
Re: 572 STREET/STRIP HEMI QUESTIONS? [Re: Dragula] #1554823
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I will sell you one of my 700hp pump gas engines, so I can pick this one up:

http://www.racingjunk.com/Street/1820468...wSuperSize=true





I like this one.. http://www.racingjunk.com/Drag-Racing/2171537/500-CI-NHRA-Pro-Stock-Hemi.html

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