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RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS #1551444
12/22/13 01:18 PM
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Hello there,


Im planing on refinish the torsion bars on my car soon.Want to have OE look with the drips on the bars.
www.moparmusclemagazine.com/techarticles/suspension/mopp_9910_torsion_bar_restoration_and_detailing/


Have 2 questions:


Nr 1.
I would like to know if the very end of the bars should be masked off like the flat areas-were the id stamping is? Or if the id stamping area was covered in paint originally on cars?


Nr 2.
I have read the threads how to paint them and everything.. And i would like to know what paint to use IF i want the correct shine on the bars.. What paint is to prefer in can or spraypaint.. I want correct shine in the black and durability without dulling..



THANKS
Nicklas

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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: 71redcuda] #1551445
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Dipping them in a homemade through is your best choice, I like to use POR-15 chassis black rust converter for this process, drys hard like rock, has just about the correct sheen/gloss, and wears well, takes a few days to fully dry, what I do find "funny" is most restorers will face all the dripped edge of the bars facing down when installing them in a vehicle, I'd avoid that, as I don't think the assembly line workers where directed to install the bars in that orientation, the dipping was a hasty way for the supplier to coat the bars, nothing more, nothing less


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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: DAYCLONA] #1551446
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Dipping them in a homemade through is your best choice, I like to use POR-15 chassis black rust converter for this process, drys hard like rock, has just about the correct sheen/gloss, and wears well, takes a few days to fully dry, what I do find "funny" is most restorers will face all the dripped edge of the bars facing down when installing them in a vehicle, I'd avoid that, as I don't think the assembly line workers where directed to install the bars in that orientation, the dipping was a hasty way for the supplier to coat the bars, nothing more, nothing less


Mike





Thanks Mike, You got an intresting point there,almost all drips are facing down on the restored cars have seen.

Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: 71redcuda] #1551447
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Torsion bar drips. A real restoration is a "controlled chaos"

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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: JRepucci] #1551448
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Very nice! Thats what im looking for. Did you also use POR-15 chassis black paint for the resto?

Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: 71redcuda] #1551449
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Very nice! Thats what im looking for. Did you also use POR-15 chassis black paint for the resto?




POR-15... Not used on anything.

That's black enamel paint. No primer. No sealer. Its paint on bare metal.

The bottom of the car is NOT painted body color; which to me is a huge NO NO... restored cars do not have body color undercarriages... custom cars do! The flash washes out the grey sealer and makes it look white.

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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: JRepucci] #1551450
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Do you know if the id stamping area on the very end of the bars should be covered in paint also? Or are they masked like the flat areas on the ends?

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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: 71redcuda] #1551451
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..right bar with one blue paint mark and the left with 2 blue paint markers?

Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: can.al] #1551452
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..right bar with one blue paint mark and the left with 2 blue paint markers?




Stripe colors depended on the size of the torsion bar.

Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: JRepucci] #1551453
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I meant this area,should it be black also??

The very end where the id stamping is..

The bars i have should have silver/alu pencil strips.

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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: 71redcuda] #1551454
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I meant this area,should it be black also?

The bars i have should have silver/alu pencil strips.




Is that a picture of the bottom of your car?

Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: JRepucci] #1551455
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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: 71redcuda] #1551456
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Set the bar flats on saw horses, get a quart of rustoleum gloss black, pore it over the bars, let cure! The heavy gloss paint will dye back to semi-gloss.


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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: BradD] #1551457
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The paint process on torsion bars is confusing to say the least...NOS ones were flat paint and had no drips..but had the Made In Canada stamp, not seen on an assembly line car.
I can understand the stamp not being found on the assembly line units, but I dont get the logic behind the different paint processes.
I know Roger would have researched his information thoroughly .

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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: mccannix] #1551458
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paint daubs shown here...it is baffling that Chrysler would prepare one batch with the drip process for the assembly line production, and another batch of the exact same part painted flat with no drips destined to go to the various Chrysler depots for service.
Why not do them all the same time, same paint with drips, and send the extras to the depots.

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Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: mccannix] #1551459
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I have two NOS bars, one is flat red, and the other is green

Re: RESTORE/PAINT TORSION BARS [Re: 71redcuda] #1551460
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I meant this area,should it be black also??

The very end where the id stamping is..

The bars i have should have silver/alu pencil strips.









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