Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/13/13 07:26 AM
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Hate to say it Mr P but I agree. Gen 3 parts costs to NZ will cripple most bank accounts. ...... And lord knows what overdrive trans will work 
67 RO23 clone with 6.1 SRT Hemi and dual quads. Soon to have Drag Pak induction and Throttle body.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
[Re: nz383man]
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12/13/13 09:45 AM
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They have been making these engines for 10 years now so I thought someone would have a conversion sorted out.
Using a carbed Gen3, and/or a 727 rather than fuel injection and an overdrive trans would defeat the advantages gained by 40 years of technology. 
The rotating stroker assembly is almost $3000...Oil filter is in the way of the k-member. Lots of people have done it though.
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
[Re: Moparmal]
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12/13/13 11:09 AM
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Using a carbed Gen3, and/or a 727 rather than fuel injection and an overdrive trans would defeat the advantages gained by 40 years of technology.
YOU KNOW SOMETHING?
After 16 years on internet forums...I'm getting really tired of people failing to read what is actually .written.....and assuming someone else is trying to drag them down.
My comments are based in fact - you WILL pay a [Email]cr@p[/Email] load to import the bits you need to install a Gen 3 .
You will also pay a [Email]cr@p[/Email] load more to modify the alleged " bolt in" parts and convert the cooling system to do the conversion.
You will also have to research what ( if any) o/d trans will bolt up without serious tunnel mods.....
Lastly...let me ask you this " guru"..........So you think an overdrive and EFI will improve my Qtr mile ET?
Do tell.......
Calm down mate, if I thought I was the Guru I would know all the answers & wouldn't have to ask on here, would I?
If you had not "failing to read what is actually .written" you would have understood that this was for my driver car that I want some economy in so I can use it more, I never made any reference at all about improve your Qtr mile ET, so why did you make that comment?
I have taken on board your comments about costs & think you are quite right about that, Thanks
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
[Re: Moparmal]
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12/13/13 11:14 AM
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...and fwiw...There are posts on this forum , mThe LX Forum and A Bodies Only detailing the process, costs, parts and issues.
Someone may have the time to repost it all for you......but in the meanwhile most of these threads are easily found.
http://www.forabodiesonly.com/mopar/forumdisplay.php?f=83
http://www.lxforums.com/board/f435/
Thank you
I did search this site but couldn't seem to get the right search words & most of the ones I found on Google were from 2009 or earlier & I thought there may be better options available by now, Cheers
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
[Re: nz383man]
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12/13/13 12:28 PM
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If you really want injection, why not use the Fast system or one of the others and still go with the GV.. if you go with the 518 type trans you will be cutting the trans tunnel for clearance 
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
[Re: MR_P_BODY]
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12/13/13 01:56 PM
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I love my 6.1 Hemi. The HP and fuel consumption are very good when compared to a big block. I also agree you want the EFI and OD but I'm not sure you can get the newer NAG trans to work in an old car. I have a spare trans just because I got a good deal on it and can send you some pics of it side by side with a 727 if you like. I would think a 5.7 hemi with a a standard 5speed out of a truck could be adapted if you convert to a mega squart or fast system. It's all up to you and if you have the time, skills, and $$$. There are enough new hemis swapped into old cars now that you are sure to find some help. This site might not be the best place but google should help. Or just buy a new Challenger. The prices are getting right on 08-09 R/Ts 
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
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12/13/13 09:08 PM
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If you had not "failing to read what is actually .written" you would have understood that this was for my driver car that I want some economy in so I
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Using a carbed Gen3, and/or a 727 rather than fuel injection and an overdrive trans would defeat the advantages gained by 40 years of technology.
So it wasnt you that started slagging the concept of a carb inducted G 3 in your reply to me?.
.Without justification or cause?
Or maybe you can show me where I raised the issue of EFI in my 1st post?
Nah...thought not.
You threw a tantrum for no reason.and slagged my build for no reason...so you can take your "calm down" and shove it.
I'm done with you.....just another one that doesn't remember what they wrote ten minutes earlier...
Just dont want respected members to waste their time on advice that you cant act on..
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Re: Gen 3 Hemi & trans into E-Body options please
[Re: Dragula]
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12/13/13 09:14 PM
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I love my 6.1 Hemi. The HP and fuel consumption are very good when compared to a big block. I also agree you want the EFI and OD but I'm not sure you can get the newer NAG trans to work in an old car. I have a spare trans just because I got a good deal on it and can send you some pics of it side by side with a 727 if you like.
I would think a 5.7 hemi with a a standard 5speed out of a truck could be adapted if you convert to a mega squart or fast system. It's all up to you and if you have the time, skills, and $$$.
There are enough new hemis swapped into old cars now that you are sure to find some help. This site might not be the best place but google should help.
Or just buy a new Challenger. The prices are getting right on 08-09 R/Ts
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I have a vehicle in the race section for sale with EFI & OD...I have run it carbed and with the efi....You could just put in the $6999 G3 Hemi from Indy and be done with it....
Guys with all due respect..
..this bloke is in New Zealand...
He will have limited access to OEM parts at insane $$$$ , will have almost ZERO access to Mopar Performance, TTI or other aftermarket stuff unless he imports it at BIG shipping costs ,
.....and the concept of sourcing a used NAG 1 or 6.1 is pretty remote....hence my 1st post which he obviously took offence to...
It cost me close to 10k in Aussie $ to do my build including shipping and fabrication...using a 727 I already owned.......the NZ $ is worth peanuts...shipping is more etc...
Just something to keep in mind unless he reckons costs are a non- issue. 
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