Re: More shock discussion
[Re: tboomer]
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12/09/13 10:40 AM
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Ted I run Strange stuts on the front of both the P- body and the Rampage... rears on the P are QA-1 and Strange rears on the Rampage.. all of them are adjustable
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Re: More shock discussion
[Re: tboomer]
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12/09/13 10:45 AM
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Thanks! The reason I was looking into the Afco or QA 1 is that Summit will soon have their big sale...
The Calverts are not adjustable but work well... I prefer ajustable shocks if you race different tracks... the Afco is a little better than the QA-1 if you ask some people... I'm VERY happy with the old QA-1s on the rear of the P-Body.. they are the old 12 click but they dont make them any more
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Re: More shock discussion
[Re: tboomer]
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12/09/13 10:56 AM
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Mike...I have the Alstons on the back.
I never tried them so I dont know anything about them.. I assume they are from Alston Chassis... so someone built them for them.. but I have on idea who
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Re: More shock discussion
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12/09/13 02:08 PM
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VariShocks like others out there use Koni valving. They are pretty decent pieces from what I have seen.
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Re: More shock discussion
[Re: Al_Alguire]
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12/09/13 02:55 PM
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VariShocks like others out there use Koni valving. They are pretty decent pieces from what I have seen.
I have heard the same thing about the vari-shock,,I personally run the QA-1's double adjustable on the rear and singles on the front, I have been curious about using doubles on the front and if it would be worth the extra money.
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Re: More shock discussion
[Re: 1967dartgt]
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12/09/13 11:23 PM
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At 9.90 or slower you can use a calvert front shock. Worked great on my car till I turned up the wick. If you get a adjustable shock you are going adjust it to basically a 90/10 shock any way.
I agree with this, with an exception. Bump valving is key. Hal Lees told me years ago, a steel bodied, oem type shock, can't absorb the loading seen on a wheelstand landing. The internal valving will "freak out" (how he described it), and blow by, letting the car crash down. He had a hand in the original 90/10 shock design. I have experienced this "freak out" valving first hand. I would go with Afco, QA1, or Strange doubles, just to have the extra tuneability, and a real adjustable shock, instead of an oem body, with their inherent limitations.
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Re: More shock discussion
[Re: loaderpro]
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12/12/13 01:01 AM
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90/10's and loose front shocks are not always the best thing. What happens is when you run them that loose you get all the hit all at once and when the shock tops out it can unload the tires. Cars often benefit from stiffer shock settings on the front rather than all the way loose like is commonly thought for the reason stated above. Especially on big power cars this is often true. Good shocks are also velocity sensitive, meaning that the faster they move, the more they absorb with the valving. And the valving on the compression side is equally important. When you the car lands it needs to absorb the weight coming down so as not to hit and unload the rear tires. Any car that lands from a wheelie hard enough to bounce the front tires back up in the air is a perfect example of this. If you had a data logger on one of these cars you would see increased driveshaft speed as the front end lands. Go watch a round of Super Stock and watch how many of the really good cars land and just touch and stick the front end. Violent launching and landing looks cool but typically is not fast nor consistent.
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