Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
[Re: thedriver]
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i just tried the car again with the batt at full charge, and it spun fer about 10 seconds before it just went dead... this is frustrating
1973 challenger Dana. 4 speed. Low deck.
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
[Re: thedriver]
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defintion - won't start = won't start but turns over,
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doesn't turn over?
check the relay
Tom
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
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what does wont start mean? does it turn over and not run or does it not turn over. if it doesnt turn over, you probably have a bum battery
It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
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i have the battery charger out, this is the 3rd battt. i have tried in the car, all read full charge, yet, everytime i try to start the car, it simple feels like i dont have enuff juice to turn the car over...would 11.5:1 CR be a factor in this?? do i need a high powered starter or something?? i can spin the starter motor fer about 10 seconds until it starts to slow down and run outta juice, the car never used to have this problem...i did get it running last night fer about an hour....ran fine, but wouldn't start when i tried it again later on....if the alternator was pooched it would've died while running right?
1973 challenger Dana. 4 speed. Low deck.
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
[Re: thedriver]
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Check the grounds for corrosion including the starter to block. I've had a 13 1/2 to 1 engine and never had starter/cranking problems. Check the grounds and the starter.
Tom
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
[Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge]
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then its your starter or the battery cables arnt making good contact.
take the big cables off and clean then termoinals and where they connect to on the battery posts, starter lug and engine block. if you have a new battery and clean terminals and it still wont crank for longer than 10 sec (although thats a LONG time to crank a starter), either the motor is REALLY REALLY tight, or the starter is going south.
It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
[Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge]
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woops, I thought it cranked over, but wasnt starting. Could be u need a high performance starter, I am not thqat good with the electronics.
73 plumcrazy challenger - 318/904, edelbrock performer 600cfm carb, performer intake and cam. Eddy Alum. Heads 3.91 locker, Doug's headers, accurate ltd. exhaust 73 Cuda - Triple Black 340 4 speed MIKE
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
[Re: MADMANMOPAR]
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Sounds like the old toasted starter to me. Headers tend to get them. Go with the mini van starter. I run them on 15to1 engines with a crank trigger. Wish they had them in the 70s so we wouldn't have heard all the starter jokes. BAYOU
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Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME
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START YOUR CAR AGAIN (IF YOU CAN) AND WHILE IT IS RUNNING, PULL OFF THE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE.. SEE IF IT STAYS RUNNING.. IF IT DIES RIGHT AWAY, SOMETHING IS WRONG IN YOUR CHARGING CIRCUIT.. BAD ALTENATOR, REGULATOR, SHORTED WIRE, BAD GROUND, ECT.. THAT IS DRAINING YOUR BATTERY..
do not do that!!!
An automobile is a DC system. When the battery is disconnected it will go into an open circuit and the voltage will sky rocket. This causes a high voltage spike and can instantly destroy any component in the vehicle with an integrated circuit!! It may not be immediate, but it will show up. This includes your radio, tach, ignition module, clock etc... anything with a little circuit board.
many have gotten away with it, but that dont make it right! Its old school diagnostics at best.
A cheap voltmeter will at least tell you if the alternator is trying to charge the battery to the regulators set point. Any voltage increase with the car running as opposed to not running will show the alternator's attempt to charge the battery. It doesnt mean it can though. To find out for sure you need to find out how many amps the alt is putting out. Then determine where those amps are going. If all is normal or acceptable, then you must check starter draw with an amp probe. If the starter draw is excessive, now you must determine the cause. Is the motor seizing? is the timing way too far advanced? are the starter bushings worn out?? is there a belt driven component seizing making it difficult to turn over?
and of course, your battery will need to be capable of suppling the required amps to crank this engine properly, and the cables will also need to be up to the task.
as you can see, this requires some proper equipment to diagnose properly, and may be better left to a true professional. It might save you some money.
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