Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Page 1 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6
DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME #15383
05/22/05 09:04 PM
05/22/05 09:04 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,481
Outside
thedriver Offline OP
pro stock
thedriver  Offline OP
pro stock

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,481
Outside
i'm having problems starting my challenger. I take a new battery, throw it in the car start it....it runs fine until i shut it off, then it refuses to start again, i just end up suckin the juice out of the battery!!! i changed the ground cable and the pos. cable to the starter, jumped the car and it started fine, then i turned it off for 10 minutes (after a good 20 minute warm up) and it wont start again.. i'm charging the battery as we speak, but i dont feel i am solving the problem...HELP!!!


1973 challenger
Dana. 4 speed. Low deck.
Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: thedriver] #15384
05/22/05 09:15 PM
05/22/05 09:15 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,481
Outside
thedriver Offline OP
pro stock
thedriver  Offline OP
pro stock

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,481
Outside
i just tried the car again with the batt at full charge, and it spun fer about 10 seconds before it just went dead... this is frustrating


1973 challenger
Dana. 4 speed. Low deck.
Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: thedriver] #15385
05/22/05 09:19 PM
05/22/05 09:19 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 96,649
On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...
amxautox Offline
Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox  Offline
Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 96,649
On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...
defintion - won't start = won't start but turns over,

or

doesn't turn over?


check the relay


Tom

"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."

-Henry David Thoreau

Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths

author unknown

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: thedriver] #15386
05/22/05 11:47 PM
05/22/05 11:47 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,064
Arlington, Texas
earlybee Offline
master
earlybee  Offline
master

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 8,064
Arlington, Texas
my vote is to get the battery tested.

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: earlybee] #15387
05/23/05 12:14 AM
05/23/05 12:14 AM
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 300
Chesapeake, Va
4
4aThrill Offline
enthusiast
4aThrill  Offline
enthusiast
4

Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 300
Chesapeake, Va
hey make sure all of your accessories are off there could be an bad draw from one i had the same problem, my blower had an bad ground, charge the battery up and then turn everything off

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: thedriver] #15388
05/23/05 12:24 AM
05/23/05 12:24 AM
Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 72
California
S
saccuda Offline
member
saccuda  Offline
member
S

Joined: Mar 2005
Posts: 72
California
have you had any other problems recently before this started happening? Long ago I had a problem similar to what you are describing that was caused by a failed ignition module.

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: saccuda] #15389
05/23/05 09:01 AM
05/23/05 09:01 AM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 15,478
the boonies
aarcuda Offline
I Live Here
aarcuda  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 15,478
the boonies
what does wont start mean? does it turn over and not run or does it not turn over. if it doesnt turn over, you probably have a bum battery


It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.
Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: aarcuda] #15390
05/23/05 02:34 PM
05/23/05 02:34 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,481
Outside
thedriver Offline OP
pro stock
thedriver  Offline OP
pro stock

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 1,481
Outside
i have the battery charger out, this is the 3rd battt. i have tried in the car, all read full charge, yet, everytime i try to start the car, it simple feels like i dont have enuff juice to turn the car over...would 11.5:1 CR be a factor in this?? do i need a high powered starter or something?? i can spin the starter motor fer about 10 seconds until it starts to slow down and run outta juice, the car never used to have this problem...i did get it running last night fer about an hour....ran fine, but wouldn't start when i tried it again later on....if the alternator was pooched it would've died while running right?


1973 challenger
Dana. 4 speed. Low deck.
Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: thedriver] #15391
05/23/05 02:39 PM
05/23/05 02:39 PM
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 96,649
On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...
amxautox Offline
Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.
amxautox  Offline
Still Retired. Still Posting on Moparts. A Lot.

Joined: May 2003
Posts: 96,649
On The Boat, On The Lake, Wa. ...
Check the grounds for corrosion including the starter to block. I've had a 13 1/2 to 1 engine and never had starter/cranking problems. Check the grounds and the starter.


Tom

"Everyone should believe in something; I believe I'll go fishing."

-Henry David Thoreau

Men and fish are alike. They both get into trouble when they open their mouths

author unknown

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: amxautox] #15392
05/23/05 02:49 PM
05/23/05 02:49 PM
Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
DaytonaTurbo Offline
Too Many Posts
DaytonaTurbo  Offline
Too Many Posts

Joined: Feb 2003
Posts: 21,318
Manitoba, Canada
If the alternator was dying, usually they will still put out enough juice to run the vehicle, but they won't charge the battery.

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: DaytonaTurbo] #15393
05/24/05 03:19 PM
05/24/05 03:19 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 225
Motor City
bluefish Offline
super street
bluefish  Offline
super street

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 225
Motor City
A battery should not die after only 10 sec of cranking

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: bluefish] #15394
05/24/05 03:54 PM
05/24/05 03:54 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,112
New Jersey, US of A
PlumCrazy73Dodge Offline
top fuel
PlumCrazy73Dodge  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,112
New Jersey, US of A
BALLAST RESISTOR!!! Change that and she'll fire up. They go without you knowing and all it does is crank till she dies. Mike

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #15395
05/24/05 04:22 PM
05/24/05 04:22 PM
Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 15,478
the boonies
aarcuda Offline
I Live Here
aarcuda  Offline
I Live Here

Joined: Mar 2003
Posts: 15,478
the boonies
then its your starter or the battery cables arnt making good contact.

take the big cables off and clean then termoinals and where they connect to on the battery posts, starter lug and engine block. if you have a new battery and clean terminals and it still wont crank for longer than 10 sec (although thats a LONG time to crank a starter), either the motor is REALLY REALLY tight, or the starter is going south.


It's got a cop motor, a 440 cubic inch plant, it's got cop tires, cop suspensions, cop shocks. It's a model made before catalytic converters so it'll run good on regular gas.
Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #15396
05/24/05 04:35 PM
05/24/05 04:35 PM
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,112
New Jersey, US of A
PlumCrazy73Dodge Offline
top fuel
PlumCrazy73Dodge  Offline
top fuel

Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,112
New Jersey, US of A
woops, I thought it cranked over, but wasnt starting. Could be u need a high performance starter, I am not thqat good with the electronics.


73 plumcrazy challenger - 318/904, edelbrock performer 600cfm carb, performer intake and cam. Eddy Alum. Heads 3.91 locker, Doug's headers, accurate ltd. exhaust
73 Cuda - Triple Black 340 4 speed
MIKE
Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: PlumCrazy73Dodge] #15397
05/24/05 05:21 PM
05/24/05 05:21 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,861
albany ny
0
05dakota Offline
I Live Here
05dakota  Offline
I Live Here
0

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 17,861
albany ny
if it was this changing batteries wont get it started

Quote:

BALLAST RESISTOR!!! Change that and she'll fire up. They go without you knowing and all it does is crank till she dies. Mike



Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: 05dakota] #15398
05/24/05 05:40 PM
05/24/05 05:40 PM
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,864
Butler, PA
R
romanucci Offline
top fuel
romanucci  Offline
top fuel
R

Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,864
Butler, PA
My vote is for the Starter.
There are many failure modes for starters, and I've experienced the one you are describing. I don't think you need a more powerful replacement, just one that cranks without seizing itself!

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME *DELETED* [Re: thedriver] #15399
05/24/05 10:34 PM
05/24/05 10:34 PM
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 716
Lorain, Ohio
MADMANMOPAR Offline
super stock
MADMANMOPAR  Offline
super stock

Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 716
Lorain, Ohio
Post deleted by MADMANMOPAR

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: MADMANMOPAR] #15400
05/25/05 12:05 AM
05/25/05 12:05 AM

A
Anonymous
Unregistered
Anonymous
Unregistered
A



Sounds like the old toasted starter to me. Headers tend to get them. Go with the mini van starter. I run them on 15to1 engines with a crank trigger. Wish they had them in the 70s so we wouldn't have heard all the starter jokes.

BAYOU

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: MADMANMOPAR] #15401
05/25/05 12:30 AM
05/25/05 12:30 AM
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,033
Ontario
5
5537SG Offline
super gas
5537SG  Offline
super gas
5

Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 5,033
Ontario
Quote:

START YOUR CAR AGAIN (IF YOU CAN) AND WHILE IT IS RUNNING, PULL OFF THE POSITIVE BATTERY CABLE.. SEE IF IT STAYS RUNNING.. IF IT DIES RIGHT AWAY, SOMETHING IS WRONG IN YOUR CHARGING CIRCUIT.. BAD ALTENATOR, REGULATOR, SHORTED WIRE, BAD GROUND, ECT.. THAT IS DRAINING YOUR BATTERY..




do not do that!!!

An automobile is a DC system. When the battery is disconnected it will go into an open circuit and the voltage will sky rocket. This causes a high voltage spike and can instantly destroy any component in the vehicle with an integrated circuit!! It may not be immediate, but it will show up. This includes your radio, tach, ignition module, clock etc... anything with a little circuit board.

many have gotten away with it, but that dont make it right! Its old school diagnostics at best.

A cheap voltmeter will at least tell you if the alternator is trying to charge the battery to the regulators set point. Any voltage increase with the car running as opposed to not running will show the alternator's attempt to charge the battery. It doesnt mean it can though. To find out for sure you need to find out how many amps the alt is putting out. Then determine where those amps are going. If all is normal or acceptable, then you must check starter draw with an amp probe. If the starter draw is excessive, now you must determine the cause. Is the motor seizing? is the timing way too far advanced? are the starter bushings worn out?? is there a belt driven component seizing making it difficult to turn over?

and of course, your battery will need to be capable of suppling the required amps to crank this engine properly, and the cables will also need to be up to the task.

as you can see, this requires some proper equipment to diagnose properly, and may be better left to a true professional. It might save you some money.

Re: DODGE WONT START!! HELP!! TEY'RE ALL GONNA LAUGH AT ME [Re: 5537SG] #15402
05/25/05 01:32 PM
05/25/05 01:32 PM
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,920
Grand Prairie,Texas
stumpy Offline
I Win
stumpy  Offline
I Win

Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 32,920
Grand Prairie,Texas
I'm sorry but we've been disconecting batteries for a lot of years and never blew a curcuit or gauge doing it. The new cars suffer from those syptoms but the older cars don't. You just pull the cable and the car will imediately die if the charging system is bad. You are disconeced for less than a 1/2 a second.

Page 1 of 6 1 2 3 4 5 6






Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.1